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Hello I’m wondering how u should play when you make a range advantage but u don’t want to over-rep your hand?
This may or may not be useful but I tend to ask myself these questions when betting hands that are clear bluffing candidates in the sense that I would prefer the opponent folds or lie hands that lie somewhere in "middle ground" between clear bluffs and clear valuebets:
How much equity am I going to fold out of villain's range? How much is a reasonable price to pay to fold out this equity? Note this includes the amount of hands villain will fold as well as an approximation of the amount of equity each hand/hand type might contain.
How many cards are likely to help my range on the coming streets?
How many cards help villain's range on the coming streets? Is villain likely to take advantage of those cards (i.e. cause me to fold out a lot of equity)?
Does this hand prefer to reach the next street or showdow or end the hand immediately?
Which players range contains a clear advantage now? Which players range is likely to have the advantage on future streets?
What lines have merit given the remaining stack sizes relative to what's in the pot?
The answers to these questions aren't easy but allow for an easier framework to make nuanced decisions in real time instead of saying "my hand is XX the board is WYZ I should bet" type decision making.
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Ex#1. U 3bet QQ and board comes out AKX thus u have the range advantage as the preflop 3bettor but if u bet you’re over-repping your hand.
Positions and opponents matter here but in general, if villains is likely to have and fold weak aces and lots of kings then a bet is clearly better for your hand. I think that's a likely assumption vs a lot of average players. In position might be different than oop as wellsince in position you always can see the next card for free, but oop you're left guessing.
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EX#2. U overcall from the BB with 22 multi-way. Flops K52r goes bet/call and we overcall. Now the turn is the 6. So we have 34 in our range and no one else does (just suppose) so it’s a reasonable card to have a lead range on? But leading would rep a straight when we only have a set.
With a set of 2's you don't block the majority of villain's calling range namely Kx so betting here is clearly superior. Sets are just way too high in your range in most situations and with typical stack sizes to not bet for value.
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EX#3. We flat 66 pre for a min-raise from the BB and board comes out 862r and we x/c a cbet. Turn is 5. So it puts some straights in our range and we might want a lead range. But again, we would be repping a straight when we only have a set.
Same situation as above. It only gets to be difficult to decide in narrow range spots where you and villain both tend to have quite a few strong hands in your ranges.
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Ex#4. We raise JJ pre and get called by the BB. Flops 822r we cbet and get called. Turn is the K and we decide it’s a good card for our range and want to barrel. But this would rep a king when we only have JJ.
Depends on villain's calling range and what type of over card hands he will carry over. If it's saturated with Ax then another bet is good. The more Kx villain is likely to show up with her the worse off you are.
Just generalizing I'd say it should be another bet but again you're in position so you can choose to check and react if you'd like. Not betting you're probably also losing more value to 8x, 77 and other random pairs the blind will have and want to defend here.