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Originally Posted by ZKesic
All of the money from your potential bluffs on the future streets.
Nice. Because they cap their checking or calling ranges more and more with every weak ranged bet or raise, we can exploit with bluffs vs the checking or calling range. I wonder how much of the pot this is worth in addition to our already relatively large share of the pot provided by our showdown ev.
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It doesn't matter. Just call all hands you were value betting and fold your bluffs.
This seems overly simplistic for different reasons given the different example hands from the op.
limit holdem flop spot? I'm getting 8.5:1, so I can and should call with bluffcatchers that intend to fold the turn on certain cards, as well as stronger bluffcatchers that can continue to the river. The only hands I'm folding are these combos without backdoor flushdraws: JTs, QTs, QJs, KJo.
no limit holdem flop spot? This is where Zkesic's above quote is correct, exaclty because the big blind is polarized.
2-7 single draw? Here we should have fold/call/raise ranges. I don't know what good snow frequencies are for this game so I'm not sure how polarized I should be on the button. Getting 2:1 closing the action post draw with my pat range I think I have many hands that could be considered bluffcatchers that can only beat a bluff.
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We shouldn't have any bluffcatchers in this spots. We're the ones that are polarized.
This isn't true in the limit holdem example because the co should never fold for the single bet closing the action preflop; the button 3 bets a linear range.
In the no limit holdem example we are polarized, but there will be a number of combos in our calling range that will have near 0ev and the same goes for the single draw example. I think these are bluffcatchers.