Pokersnowie question - Page 51 - Poker Theory

I couldn't find a more appropriate thread for this, so I'm going to post here. Anyway, I got an email from Snowie team that they have proactively reactivated my free trial. When I try to log in though I get the following error: "Unfortunately our system encountered a problem and is unable to log you in. We apologize for the inconvenience caused and ask you to please contact us on support@pokersnowie.com We will do our best to resolve this issue in a timely manner." Tried uninstalling/reinstalling but it didn't make a difference. Anyone else has experiences with this error?

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07-01-2016 , 09:21 AM

#1253

garyfelice55

banned

Join Date: Jan 2016 Posts: 343

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Originally Posted by tultfill

Snowie is a scam and you will lose money using that chart.

You are a Frustrated/unsuccessful poker player.
I've used Snowies general concepts in both live and online games and for the most part It has worked well.
Snowie does not handle the concept of the bluff to well but other then that its a pretty strong program.

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07-13-2016 , 06:43 AM

#1254

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grinder

Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 415

Trying to figure out why there's such a discrepancy between this decision at 2-5 vs 5-10.... Both are 300bb deep.

Villain 1 raises from the CO, villain 2 calls, hero calls in the bb with 8

Flop 8

hero checks, villain 1 bets half pot, villain 2 calls.

At 2-5 calling is -EV, at 5/10 calling is +1.5bb!! Huge difference. I assumed that rake considerations mostly affected preflop and not even this significantly.

I play live poker where the rake is >1bb everytime a hand goes to the flop so what would be the best stake to run the scenarios in snowie? And should I subtract 0.5bb from whatever EV snowie says because of how massive the rake is?

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07-13-2016 , 09:21 AM

#1255

Brokenstars

Verified Coach NLHE

Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 16,103

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Originally Posted by Loading....

Trying to figure out why there's such a discrepancy between this decision at 2-5 vs 5-10.... Both are 300bb deep.

Villain 1 raises from the CO, villain 2 calls, hero calls in the bb with 8

Flop 8

Don't fold in either case imo.

I'm very skeptical of snowie's "EVs". If its >0, probably call, if its <0 probably fold. But you need to actually look at the ranges/equity to make the final determination. Snowie will just point you into the right direction.

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07-16-2016 , 11:42 PM

#1256

Krisssss

grinder

Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 569

I use snowie when I make review for my hands especially when snowie think that the error is big and here is all ok.
BUt if I want analyze a particoular hand with snowie?
When I click with right mouse button over a selected hand I want a voice ''ANALYZE WITH SNOWIE''

I think can be a really good idea

Or Into snowie MENU a voice like:
filter by date and filter by mark hands

I think is spectacular

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07-17-2016 , 07:43 PM

#1257

letzplayHU

journeyman

Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 246

Looking to join a skype group where we include snowie in our hand analyses as well as possible motivations for snowie; or PM if you want to join mine.

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07-17-2016 , 08:04 PM

#1258

Krisssss

grinder

Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 569

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Originally Posted by letzplayHU

Looking to join a skype group where we include snowie in our hand analyses as well as possible motivations for snowie; or PM if you want to join mine.

I send you PM

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07-25-2016 , 05:08 PM

#1259

SH1591

adept

Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 856

Got the pro version.

Any tips on the best way to use it? if it has standard ranges to use or anything, already found a couple of strange suggestions it gave me on some hands though, apparently if the CO limps and i have TT on the button i should be limping too rather than raising which seems odd...

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07-28-2016 , 09:00 AM

#1260

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grinder

Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 415

PLEASE develop Pokersnowie for mixed games!!! At least some of the fixed limit games that are easy to solve, like FLHE, limit 2-7 TD, and Razz. It wouldn't take much computing power to solve these games considering what you've accomplished with NLHE!!!

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07-29-2016 , 02:32 AM

#1261

Abracadabraa

newbie

Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 30

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Originally Posted by Loading....

I'm dreaming of it

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08-25-2016 , 12:53 AM

#1262

Derpdeedoo

enthusiast

Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 94

any ante support in near future?

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08-27-2016 , 12:09 AM

#1263

Jet$on

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Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 43

Can anyone explain to me as to why Poker Snowie's Early Position Ranges are wider than it's Late Position calling range vs an Early Position Raise ?

Aren't late position calling ranges usually wider, because of positional advantage?

Hijack Open: https://www.pokersnowie.com/pftapp/i...#open_position

CO Call vs Hijack Open: https://www.pokersnowie.com/pftapp/i...l#facing_raise

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08-27-2016 , 01:32 AM

#1264

mike1270

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Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,078

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Originally Posted by Jet$on

Aren't late position calling ranges usually wider, because of positional advantage?

not wider than the openers range

links don't really show anything

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08-27-2016 , 07:10 AM

#1265

Brokenstars

Verified Coach NLHE

Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 16,103

You usually call a bit tighter and 3b or fold some stuff.

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08-27-2016 , 06:21 PM

#1266

wwwin

adept

Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 843

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Originally Posted by Jet$on

Because it is a Mickey Mouse toy program. You are going to lose money playing the way it plays and will waste your time.

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08-27-2016 , 06:23 PM

#1267

ArtyMcFly

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Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 13,256

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Originally Posted by Jet$on

Your links don't work (use screengrabs in future if necessary), but I think you're asking "Why is the BTN's calling range vs UTG smaller than UTG's opening range?"

Your question is partially explained by what Sklansky called 'The Gap concept' (Google it). In essence, you need a stronger hand (range) to call a raise than you would use to open the pot yourself.

To use an extreme example for illustration: If a villain only played AA and KK, you'd be a fool to play KK, because you're never winning. You need to play hands that do well against villain's entire range, not that chop with the worst hands in it.

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08-27-2016 , 06:30 PM

#1268

wwwin

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Problem is there does not exist a player who only plays KK or AA so all this theoretical advice is garbage in real poker.

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08-27-2016 , 06:44 PM

#1269

wwwin

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Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 843

...and once a real poker player sees that you are a late position folding machine to raises you are going to exploited. LOL. Was not this toy supposed to be not exploitable?

Last edited by wwwin; 08-27-2016 at 06:51 PM.

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08-27-2016 , 07:05 PM

#1270

wwwin

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Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 843

... and is having static opening ranges not contrary to Game Theory Optimal. What is this GTO strategy that they claim to have?

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08-27-2016 , 07:31 PM

#1271

mike1270

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Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,078

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Originally Posted by wwwin

...and once a real poker player sees that you are a late position folding machine to raises you are going to exploited. LOL. Was not this toy supposed to be not exploitable?

Meh Snowie's CC ranges in LP seem pretty close to what I think most decent regs are doing

Are you saying we should be calling significantly wider CO v EP/MP?

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08-27-2016 , 07:33 PM

#1272

mike1270

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Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,078

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Originally Posted by wwwin

... and is having static opening ranges not contrary to Game Theory Optimal. What is this GTO strategy that they claim to have?

I think they dropped the GTO marketing quite awhile ago.

why are standard pre flop contrary to a GTO approach?

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08-27-2016 , 08:02 PM

#1273

wwwin

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Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 843

Our

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Originally Posted by mike1270

Meh Snowie's CC ranges in LP seem pretty close to what I think most decent regs are doing

Are you saying we should be calling significantly wider CO v EP/MP?

What I am saying is that your play should be adjustable to what you believe the Villain may have taking into account the way that he/she has been playing. Why are you taking the player out of the equation and just look at relative position? Are you saying that regs do not play the players at all?

Last edited by wwwin; 08-27-2016 at 08:09 PM.