6 handed 100bb stacks w "gto" ranges. utg pots, +1 3B pots, folds to our BB. What are we cold 4B with? I saw some work JNandez did w Monker Solver and I think it said all AAxx and JT97ds, but not JT98ds - that's a a flat. Can we add more combos? In a live game should we only cold 4 AAxx in this spot? If I should post this in the PLO forum I will but thought I'd be better off starting here.

Someone please check my math on this as I don't remember if in pot limit you can raise the amount of the pot that includes your previous action.

Assuming sb is .5bb and no antes or anything then utg raise would be 1+2.5 = 3.5bb so the pot is now 1.5+3.5 = 5bb and so the 3 bettors raise would be 3.5 + 8.5 = 12bb and the total pot when it gets back to us is 12+5 = 17bb. That means in the BB we can raise up to 7.5+24.5= 32Bb

If we choose to pot we will have 100-32 = 68bb behind and if we get called in one place an spr of 68:64 or just over 1 and if we get called in more than one place an spr of 68:96 or about .7.

I would say at those SPRs post flop would be pretty easy to play for any of those hands and that the described hands would have plenty of equity on a large variety of flops to get the rest in. That's not even accounting for folds preflop.

I don't play PLO, but I think....
UTG opens 3.5bb (pot is 5bb)
MP 3-bets to 12bb (pot is 17bb)
BB can cold 4bet to 40bb. (17+11+12, to make the pot = 68bb)

Maybe I am obtuse but where did you get the extra 12bb in your last calculation? 17 bb in the pot from the 3bet and 11 from our call so what's with the extra 12? Minimum raise amount?

17+11=28BB pot size after our call. A pot sized raise is 28BB on top, making the total raise 40BB.

The easiest way for me to calculate the pot size is 3x the action, plus the rest of the money in the pot (not counting money already in front of the potential raiser, obviously.)

3*12+.5+3.5 = 40BB.

If stacks were deep enough and UTG wants to re-pot then it would be 40*3+.5+12 = 132.5BB. However if UTG folds and MP wants to re-pot, it would be 40*3+.5+3.5 = 124BB. The difference is because of the different amount of dead money.

Thanks! Makes sense now.

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