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Old 04-27-2017, 12:43 PM   #1
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Playing Asymmetric Ranges

Hey guys I am wondering how do you approach playing in HU asymmetric range spots.

I am particularly talking about uncapped spots so both ranges can have the nuts but one is maybe 1.1-2x as likely and the bottom end of the weaker range is much weaker.

The game I am working on is 2-7 single draw. In the spot where one player has a 1 card draw to a 7 and the other has a 2 card draw to a 7.

What is GTO? How do you play both ranges in and out of position or better yet how do you approach the theory of these spots?
From what I can remember from Mathematics of Poker most of the toy games are symmetric [0,1] games so I do not know how to apply math to these spots.
How do you defend optimally as the weaker range or is it impossible?

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Old 04-27-2017, 01:34 PM   #2
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Re: Playing Asymmetric Ranges

Who's in position and what was the action like and how big is the pot and which draw is it?
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Old 04-28-2017, 09:41 AM   #3
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Re: Playing Asymmetric Ranges

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Who's in position
The difference of position matters because the out of position player has to check fold his bad hands, but the in position player can check back.
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what was the action like
This would help me visualize the situation.
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how big is the pot
This has an effect on how thin players can value bet or raise, which effects bluffing frequency and how often they check and or fold.
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which draw is it?
Early streets allow for more bluffing than late streets.
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Old 04-28-2017, 11:00 PM   #4
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Re: Playing Asymmetric Ranges

Well let's first talk about the most of common situation.

The action is open and call from BB.
BB draws 2
IP player draws 1.
Pot size is 1.
Betting is NL.
Stack size 2-10.
This is a post draw river decision.
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Old 05-04-2017, 01:53 PM   #5
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Re: Playing Asymmetric Ranges

You need to make an (0,1) game out of it. This could take a while and I'm not very good at this calculation.
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Old 05-04-2017, 04:16 PM   #6
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Re: Playing Asymmetric Ranges

I'd probably start by running through half-street games like MoP does. I'd solve for situations like BB must check and either call or fold to a pot-sized bet and hope that solving for increasingly complex games helps me figure something out.
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