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08-06-2019 , 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Comebackdann
Hey everyone,

wasn't sure whether there was a theory thread on opening size but still wanted to ask a few:
- Why are most people opening between 2.0-2.5x?
- How does rake affect opening size (the higher the rake the bigger the opening size?)
- If people are under-3betting, are we supposed to increase our opening size as we are not getting punished as much or should it not change?
- Am I wasting my time thinking about this as opening size does not impact my winrate as much?

My questions apply to 6max cash at micros if anyone wants to answer them
- I play fr and tend to use snowie’s ranges. It opens 1/2 pot (about 2.3/2.4) all the way from utg to hj, then pot (3.5 co and btn, 3 sb). Idk the exact explanation but I guess the smaller sizings reduce a little bit the need to defend + reduces the incentive for others to 3b you since the reward is smaller.
From steal positions you’re trying to win preflop (no rake). Tighter ranges.

- Yes. You want to win more preflop, and have a stronger range.

- It depends. Are they folding a lot? If yes, open more hands for a smaller sizing. If not, and they are calling too much, I guess you should open bigger to get more value.

- In games with smaller edges (everything above 2nl), you should look to exploit every possible edge, including preflop sizings.

Cheers
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08-12-2019 , 07:28 PM
I always thought snowie opens in late position larger because being IP more often.

EP is going to play OOP much more often and when being OOP we want to play "smaller" pots. On the other hand i think the deeper you the more does position matter. so i am confused now
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12-30-2019 , 10:03 PM
So if you play LAG ( 27/24/9) and the pool is slightly overfolding but do 3 bet - you should stick with smaller openings ( 2X)?

Of course live 9Max LAG should increase sizing to at least 3-4x and reduce the range.

Last edited by stumbras; 12-30-2019 at 10:09 PM.
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12-31-2019 , 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by stumbras
So if you play LAG ( 27/24/9) and the pool is slightly overfolding but do 3 bet - you should stick with smaller openings ( 2X)?
I wouldn't go below 2.2x because 2x is going to attract too many calls from my experience, but anything between 2x and 3x is acceptable.
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01-01-2020 , 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Zuko
I always thought snowie opens in late position larger because being IP more often.

EP is going to play OOP much more often and when being OOP we want to play "smaller" pots. On the other hand i think the deeper you the more does position matter. so i am confused now
You have to look at it from villain's perspective to get the full picture. If you open smaller they get better pot odds. If you open bigger they can win more from 3betting.

When you open EP 3/5 of the table go into raise or fold territory. If you open smaller they win less.

When you open the BTN you can expect to play against the BB a lot, and it wants to continue mostly by calling. If you open bigger he gets worse pot odds.

So you can open smaller in earlier positions because the threat of a squeeze protects you from getting cold called all over the place.
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01-04-2020 , 12:11 AM
What about Zoom( fast fold), does it change sizes?
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