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New split-pot variant of Omaha, is it good? New split-pot variant of Omaha, is it good?

04-17-2021 , 09:26 AM
I came up with this idea yesterday and I decided to post the rules here because I'm very excited about it.

At the beginning, the game can be hard to play because of the way the player's hand is read, but you can master it as any other skill. It requires a lot of practice though.

Title: "Red Tilt"
Betting structure: Fixed Limit, Pot Limit
Hole cards: 4
Deck: 52
Betting rounds: 4 (Pre flop, Flop, Turn, River)

It's similar to Omaha Hi-Lo, but instead of the low hand the other hand is read the same way as normal Omaha but with reversed red cards values (aces stay the same, K=2, Q=3, J=4, T=5, 9=6, 8=7). The pot is split into A-pot and B-pot. A-pot is won by the best A-hand while the B-pot is won by the best B-hand. When there is no qualifying B-hand, the best A-hand wins the whole pot.

A-hand => Classic Omaha hand, any 2 hole cards plus any 3 community cards.

B-hand => Any 2 hole cards plus any 3 community cards. Values of all red cards in the deck are reversed. To qualify for the B-hand player must have at least three of a kind sixes.

The hand ranking is the classic one and it's 100% confirmed for this game because reversing red card values doesn't change it.

Author: G. Jakubowicz
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04-18-2021 , 09:38 PM
It's a bad game because it's too complicated and intimidating to attract drunks and idiots.
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04-19-2021 , 07:02 AM
I don't think it's too difficult, I'm learning it now. It's an experts game like chess or snooker.

Checking the B-hand if it qualifies or not goes faster then reading it precisely. If it doesn't qualify you don't need to read all 5 cards.

Situations where 7 of 9 cards are red might be hard to read, but there are couple of hints that help. You can really learn this game if you practice.

In a live game you can play slower. When playing online it could get much easier because of some additional display options.
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04-21-2021 , 04:22 PM
Game which requires difficult and "delusionary" way of thinking is actually mathematically correct. Isn't it fascinating ?

Mastering all the basics could be really profitable, not to mention advanced strategic play. I look forward to read some more comments. Anybody plays Omaha 8 maybe ?
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04-21-2021 , 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by ITryDeuces
Game which requires difficult and "delusionary" way of thinking is actually one almost all people won't play.
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04-23-2021 , 11:54 AM
>>> problem solved.

Classic playing cards are giving way too much misinformation when reading your B-hand. Special deck is required to play this game:

- all black cards design remains the same
- all red cards graphic design is changed => Cards are white blank with only the corner index pips visible. So all the graphic in the middle of red cards is removed leaving white space.

This will make the game about 80% easier !!
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04-25-2021 , 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Darth Sagebrush
It's a bad game because it's too complicated and intimidating to attract drunks and idiots.
+1

Don't waste your time. No one will take the time to learn this when they already have a split pot variant of the exact same game that already gives plenty of edge for the skillful player.
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04-26-2021 , 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by poskid
+1

Don't waste your time. No one will take the time to learn this when they already have a split pot variant of the exact same game that already gives plenty of edge for the skillful player.
You're right.

I'm giving up with this game, but ... I have a new one. It's much more simple and it's a NL variant of Texas Hold'em. Please keep an eye on this section of the forum - the rules will be posted within next couple of weeks. I'm looking for any flaws and studying the game now - so far so good

Thanks for the feedback !
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04-26-2021 , 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ITryDeuces
It's much more simple and it's a NL variant of Texas Hold'em. Please keep an eye on this section of the forum - the rules will be posted within next couple of weeks. I'm looking for any flaws and studying the game now - so far so good

Thanks for the feedback !
I think you mean a split-pot variant because again...We already have a NL variant to the game that provides an edge for skilled players.

I'll warn you right now. A split pot variant of Texas Holdem is not going to ever be popular. Split pot variants need each player to have more than two personal cards to be effective and not be simply a quirk.
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04-27-2021 , 02:53 AM
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Originally Posted by poskid
I think you mean a split-pot variant because again...We already have a NL variant to the game that provides an edge for skilled players.

I'll warn you right now. A split pot variant of Texas Holdem is not going to ever be popular. Split pot variants need each player to have more than two personal cards to be effective and not be simply a quirk.
No, it won't be another split-pot variant. It's purely a NL game (2-10 players) which seems to be very deep so far. I'm totally mesmerized by it. I've applied a clever trick (or twist) to the rules that seems to be working great so far. I've learned a lot during the last 2 years also thanks to this forum and I have to say that the game might be a big one. Still need to make sure everything works before posting.

It's impossible to beat NLHE with a new variant, but I think this time I will get as close as nobody did before. Prepare your decks of cards and get ready.
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