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Old 08-04-2017, 09:08 AM   #1
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Interesting article about LAG play by Ed Miller (not revolutionary, but interesting)

http://www.cardplayer.com/cardplayer...s-up-with-lags

It's a good article - the 'meat' of why (some) LAGs are so good is about 2/3 of the way down the page:

As most of us know, an EV graph for preflop hands follows an "inverse exponential curve": AA >> KK >> QQ >> ... BUT the EV curve levels-out very quickly as you progress to 'mediocre hands' (if you want to graph this, there are sites that provide the data).

The 'secret' is, preflop, good LAGs play most mediocre non-denominated hands the same way because the EV difference between these hands is miniscule (both of them can even be -EV).

But with good postflop play, the hands become basically equivalent.

So good LAGs get more postflop play because they realize many mediocre hands are "EV equivalent", whereas the non-LAG would be reticent to play some non-traditional hands. Miller gives some examples.
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Old 08-04-2017, 01:10 PM   #2
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Re: Interesting article about LAG play by Ed Miller (not revolutionary, but interesting)

So......

"Play the player, not the cards."

A player who is just better at NLHE gives up very little by seeing flops in good spots against weaker opponents. The preflop -EV is irrelevant, when a player is just head and shoulders above the rest, postflop.

More decisions against weaker players should make more money.

Most hands of NLHE do not go to showdown. I think pointing out how crappy cards are basically equally crappy misses the point.


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Old 08-04-2017, 02:39 PM   #3
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Re: Interesting article about LAG play by Ed Miller (not revolutionary, but interesting)

I don't see anything to disagree with in that article. It all seems solid to me.
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