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11-22-2017 , 09:49 PM
This is about theoretical models of poker. If you know of a great model from a book, then please just say what book it is.

I know to start with Theory of Games and Economic Behavior by John von Neumann and Oskar Morgenstern.

I am interested in all the different ways to model it and what is considered the most modern theory.

No spoilers please. Just tell me what to read.

Thanks!
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11-22-2017 , 09:59 PM
Steven Tadelis. Game Theory, an Introduction.

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11-29-2017 , 12:39 PM
I can send you a pre-release version of my book if you like. I'm pretty sure I've found the most efficient play making model possible.
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11-29-2017 , 01:08 PM
All models are are welcome to be “in the hat” so to speak. PM me if you like.

-Rob
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11-29-2017 , 03:45 PM
Lol you don't sound very enthusiastic for someone who is about to read the greatest strategy book of all time. In this book I highlight Sun Tzu's mistakes and explain how to beat him. It's not just a poker book, but I think it is the only poker book any beginner will ever need (except perhaps a GTO book). It's purely exploitative and purely theory. There is a touch of GTO in there, but, as I'm sure you have guessed, I don't say kind words about it... Send me an email address and I'll drop u a PDF if you still want this honour
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11-30-2017 , 10:45 AM
Consider me honored, email addy sent...
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11-30-2017 , 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Yadoula8
the greatest strategy book of all time...the only poker book any beginner will ever need
I'd like to distribute free copies of it everywhere I play. Make poker great again!!!
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11-30-2017 , 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by heehaww
I'd like to distribute free copies of it everywhere I play. Make poker great again!!!
That's the plan. I'll be sure to give it out for free someday, but first I need to make some money for the 5000 hours I spent writing it!! When I set out I thought I could do it in less than 1000. I thought I knew all I needed to know to put all exploitative theory in to one all-encompassing model but I did not! I kept finding new stuff and everytime I worked out something new I had to rewrite the entire book. It was an epic task. My wives are screwing. But now its done, and I suspect that I am set to redefine not only Poker theory, but all strategic theory. I cracked everything. And it's quite a pleasant read too.
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12-01-2017 , 05:37 AM
i would love to read. please PM me
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12-01-2017 , 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Yadoula8
I can send you a pre-release version of my book if you like. I'm pretty sure I've found the most efficient play making model possible.
So... when I told you that you should write a book.... you did??

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seems like someone hacked yadoula's account
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12-01-2017 , 03:34 PM
Hi all I m new of this forum, Yadoula8 I m intersted at.... it would be an honor for me too
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12-01-2017 , 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Brokenstars
So... when I told you that you should write a book.... you did??

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seems like someone hacked yadoula's account
Did you have him on ignore? He's been talking about writing his book or his written book for awhile now. Can't wait to see it on top of the NY Times best seller list. I am sure the title will be something like...

"Levels: How I am great at poker and can make you as great as me. The perfect theory model for all of human decision making and strategy guide Vol 1."

I will start watching for it in the coming weeks.
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12-01-2017 , 04:45 PM
No, he was not on ignore. I like his posts.
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12-01-2017 , 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Yadoula8
first I need to make some money for the 5000 hours I spent writing it!!
Three hours a day, every single day for the last four and half years, or something like that?
JK Rowling became a billionaire doing fewer hours than that.
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12-02-2017 , 04:09 PM
Yadoula8 has a prerelease version of his book, which he has put a lot of work into, and given to me free of charge.

It took work, and is interesting to read, and does count as a model of poker.

I know he both gives and receives some flak here on the 2+2 forum.

What has been given to me is free and interesting, but is more about “how to play great exploitive poker” than what I am looking for here itt.

By “model” I am talking about:

von Neuman’s model, including extensions by Ferguson/Ferguson

Borel’s model (mostly applicable to draw and stud poker)

Looking for anything else, especially in the last 20 years that is not simply an extension of the above models.

-Rob
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12-03-2017 , 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by just_grindin
Did you have him on ignore? He's been talking about writing his book or his written book for awhile now. Can't wait to see it on top of the NY Times best seller list. I am sure the title will be something like...

"Levels: How I am great at poker and can make you as great as me. The perfect theory model for all of human decision making and strategy guide Vol 1."

I will start watching for it in the coming weeks.
It's actually - "The Levels - Learn How All Players Think Through Their Plays"

Last edited by Yadoula8; 12-03-2017 at 03:15 PM.
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12-03-2017 , 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Brokenstars
So... when I told you that you should write a book.... you did??

Spoiler:
seems like someone hacked yadoula's account
Sorry Brokenstars, I don't know who you are. This is the book I tried to get Sklansky to write. But all he did was give me the same old s*** almost all of you guys do. So I said that I'd write it myself, and I said that when I was finished it would replace his "Theory of Poker" as the staple theory book for all beginners. Some of you will remember that conversation I'm sure.

(I've spoke to Sklansky since, and have realised that he doesn't understand Level One, which is why he gave me jip)

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12-03-2017 , 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by ArtyMcFly
Three hours a day, every single day for the last four and half years, or something like that?
JK Rowling became a billionaire doing fewer hours than that.
JK Rowling wrote about a little boy with magical powers. I worked out how we naturally strategize. Not just we humans, but all beings. Mine was harder to write lol, and it's not out yet... When it does become famous, in however long that will take, guys like you arty, are going to look reeeal stupid. I hope you will apologise, but I really don't care lol. You're all just going mental, I do explain why in the book.
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12-03-2017 , 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by robert_utk
Yadoula8 has a prerelease version of his book, which he has put a lot of work into, and given to me free of charge.

It took work, and is interesting to read, and does count as a model of poker.

I know he both gives and receives some flak here on the 2+2 forum.

What has been given to me is free and interesting, but is more about “how to play great exploitive poker” than what I am looking for here itt.

By “model” I am talking about:

von Neuman’s model, including extensions by Ferguson/Ferguson

Borel’s model (mostly applicable to draw and stud poker)

Looking for anything else, especially in the last 20 years that is not simply an extension of the above models.

-Rob
Thanks Rob, that's the feedback I generally receive. I'm glad you found it interesting and I'm sorry it was not what you were looking for. I do hope it will stay your mind for many a year.
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12-03-2017 , 03:55 PM
Seriously did someone hack yadoula's account?
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12-03-2017 , 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Brokenstars
Seriously did someone hack yadoula's account?
Really not sure why you think so?
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12-03-2017 , 06:55 PM
His way of writing clearly changed. No poor arguments or insults or passive aggressiveness thus far has me stunned.
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12-03-2017 , 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Brokenstars
His way of writing clearly changed. No poor arguments or insults or passive aggressiveness thus far has me stunned.
What?


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Originally Posted by Yadoula8
Lol you don't sound very enthusiastic for someone who is about to read the greatest strategy book of all time.
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Originally Posted by Yadoula8
This is the book I tried to get Sklansky to write. But all he did was give me the same old s*** almost all of you guys do. So I said that I'd write it myself, and I said that when I was finished it would replace his "Theory of Poker" as the staple theory book for all beginners. Some of you will remember that conversation I'm sure.

(I've spoke to Sklansky since, and have realised that he doesn't understand Level One, which is why he gave me jip)

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Originally Posted by Yadoula8
When it does become famous, in however long that will take, guys like you arty, are going to look reeeal stupid. I hope you will apologise, but I really don't care lol. You're all just going mental, I do explain why in the book.



In any event, I don't notice any difference in his way of writing from eyeballing it. And he has been posting about this book for a long time.
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12-03-2017 , 11:08 PM
It wasn't my intention to bring the attention of two mods. Sorry for wasting everyone's time.
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12-03-2017 , 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Brokenstars
It wasn't my intention to bring the attention of two mods. Sorry for wasting everyone's time.
Don't worry about it. My reading the thread had nothing to do with your posts about his account possibly being hacked.
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