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Old 02-13-2019, 12:39 AM   #1
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Smile My opening, 3 bet, 4 bet and preflop calling ranges in NLHE

I like to open and 3bet / 4 bet with the following hands:

AK, AQ, AJ, A10, KQ, KJ, K10, QJ, Q10. (suited or unsuited).

I will open with any pair also and A9 or better (suited or unsuited). Also I will open with connecting cards - 1 gappers or 2 gappers (suited or unsuited.

My preflop calling range will involve middle to low pairs JJ or lower and any 1 gappers or 2 gappers connecting hands (suited or unsuited).

Obviously I will open / 3 bet / 4 bet with AA, KK, QQ and I will just open / call any 3 bet with JJ - 22 to try and flop a set and if I don't flop a set, proceed cautiously on the flop if i'm up against the 3better.

Everyone's feedback is greatly appreciated here!

Feel free to share your thoughts in regards to your opening / 3bet / 4bet and calling ranges. We are all here to help
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Old 02-13-2019, 11:50 AM   #2
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You might want to also consider position, stacks, bet sizes, villain's tendencies, population tendencies and a bunch of other factors other than your holding.
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Old 02-13-2019, 08:19 PM   #3
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Re: My opening, 3 bet, 4 bet and preflop calling ranges in NLHE

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You might want to also consider position, stacks, bet sizes, villain's tendencies, population tendencies and a bunch of other factors other than your holding.
This.

There is a ton of stuff you aren't considering OP. At first glance it will seem like information overload, but in practice it's much easier.

Your range sounds decent from the cut-off fwiw

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You might want to also consider position, stacks, bet sizes, villain's tendencies, population tendencies and a bunch of other factors other than your holding.
very good.

so why did I win 20% of the pots I played last Sunday then in the $55 Sunday Marathon? Via 3betting/4betting with reckless abandon. They will ALL tight

Havent got the high stakes version of PT4 to show you the proof, but I will if you want me to
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Re: My opening, 3 bet, 4 bet and preflop calling ranges in NLHE

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very good.



so why did I win 20% of the pots I played last Sunday then in the $55 Sunday Marathon? Via 3betting/4betting with reckless abandon. They will ALL tight



Havent got the high stakes version of PT4 to show you the proof, but I will if you want me to
Results oriented thinking is a bad way to measure your strategy especially over small sample sizes.

Also that's a pretty rude way to reply to someone that was giving you sound advice.
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Re: My opening, 3 bet, 4 bet and preflop calling ranges in NLHE

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very good.

so why did I win 20% of the pots I played last Sunday then in the $55 Sunday Marathon? Via 3betting/4betting with reckless abandon. They will ALL tight

Havent got the high stakes version of PT4 to show you the proof, but I will if you want me to
Get em richie
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very good.

so why did I win 20% of the pots I played last Sunday then in the $55 Sunday Marathon? Via 3betting/4betting with reckless abandon. They will ALL tight

Havent got the high stakes version of PT4 to show you the proof, but I will if you want me to
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Re: My opening, 3 bet, 4 bet and preflop calling ranges in NLHE

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Results oriented thinking is a bad way to measure your strategy especially over small sample sizes.

Also that's a pretty rude way to reply to someone that was giving you sound advice.
no offense intended. I like to speak my mind
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This is a level, yeah?
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This is a level, yeah?
Last weekend In the $55 Sunday Matathon I was 3/betting and 4betting with those hands and I won most of the pots. I ended up winning 20% of the pots I contested, so was not a bad result I must say.
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Re: My opening, 3 bet, 4 bet and preflop calling ranges in NLHE

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very good.



so why did I win 20% of the pots I played last Sunday then in the $55 Sunday Marathon? Via 3betting/4betting with reckless abandon. They will ALL tight



Havent got the high stakes version of PT4 to show you the proof, but I will if you want me to


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Re: My opening, 3 bet, 4 bet and preflop calling ranges in NLHE

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Last weekend In the $55 Sunday Matathon I was 3/betting and 4betting with those hands and I won most of the pots. I ended up winning 20% of the pots I contested, so was not a bad result I must say.
Wow my dude. Do you coach or make videos or anything?
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Wow my dude. Do you coach or make videos or anything?
not at all. im not even a pro yet. playing in the micro stakes.

my goal is to make $50 a week in the micros in mixed games and then play the $55 Sunday Marathon. worst case scenario is that I break even for the week. that's the plan
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Feel free to share your thoughts in regards to your opening / 3bet / 4bet and calling ranges. We are all here to help
If you're giving little consideration to your position with the wide range you've listed, it would be a very aggressive style. It's difficult to play and comes with huge swings. The payoff is frequent, large pots but lots of risk. That level of aggression usually comes from highly skilled players who know how to play any cards from any position.

Now compare that to the polar opposite conservative / tight style. When you play conservative, technique is less critical because the strength of your cards does a lot of the work for you. You're position, knowledge of opponent tendencies and over-all technique for winning pots doesn't always have to be very strong. How hard is it to win pots when you go into the hand with top cards?

The payoff for this style is fewer and smaller pots, but a safer way to play.

As you open your range, you exit the conservative style and move toward aggression. This requires more skill, because the strength of your cards goes down. Your position becomes more important as well as knowledge of your opponents. You'll need a few tricks for taking down pots as well as proper bet sizing. The risk goes up, but so does the size of the pots.

Then we come to the ultra aggressive style you've described where you're gonna need everything to be successful. You have to play your position like a pro. You'll need to know all sorts of stuff about your opponents. You'll need a bunch of tricks and techniques for winning pots and have perfect bet sizing and so on and so forth. Are you really that guy? You got it all?

You're not.

People make the mistake of playing a range of cards that's simply outside their level of skill for taking down pots. I can pretty much guarantee you that playing a conservative, semi-aggressive range will serve you much better over a long period than trying to play like Daniel Negreanu.
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Daniel Negreanu lol.
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Old 02-19-2019, 03:07 AM   #16
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Daniel Negreanu lol.
nothing wrong with Kid Poker, the 2nd highest LIVE money winner of all time.
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