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Originally Posted by bawksy
Slowjoe, that's very interesting what you wrote. What did eastgate put Dwan on? Ten Duece, because his range is so wide? Or an ace duece?
I understand they read hands very well, I've watched negreanu(sp?) play for a while and he advocates a very loose preflop strategy and a sound postflop strategy, and it all depends on reading your opponent. Though not nearly as aggressive as some of these online gurus, he certainly plays a lot more hands than a typical TAG.
Anyway, what tips would I need to learn in order to play this style? And at what limits does it start to be effective.
I understand completely playing at low-stakes is a matter of ABC poker and getting the most EV for each decision you make. But at some point, the poker has to start getting tougher.
I would even wager to say that lower stakes are as tough as some of the higher stakes were years ago. It's because of the fact everyone thinks they are a great player. So they all read and do as much work as possible. Everyone on 2+2 isnt a winner, but I'm sure this site is a stepping stone to winning
The video is at
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GXmLPbTmE0 starting at around 35min, and a discussion is at
http://www.pokerlistings.com/blog/dw...astgate-on-hsp
It's the weight of money at issue. Greenstein is marked with a big pair, and knows that Durrrr can easily have a deuce. Durrrr "has to" have a hand, because he bets the turn after Eastgate cold-calls a bet and a raise.
Eastgate puts him on a bigger deuce or tens full, since he has to be able to beat Barry's big pair. The only deuce he can beat is 32, and he's sitting with 500k in front of him facing a bet of 100k+.
They're playing 400/800/200 ante, so Eastgate and Durrrr are playing ~600bb deep. This kind of move simply can't work against short-stacked fish. Having a fairly huge ante in there plays into Durrrr's hands also. Those conditions don't exist in other games, and many of the guys in the game simply cannot afford to lose a couple of stacks in twenty minutes vs a madman.
(Brunson, Greenstein and Eastgate are probably ok, but I'd be surprised if Phil Laak, for example, can afford to stack off multiple times. I know that when Phil Galfond was there, he only had one buyin available in Vegas on the day, and was essentially playing under-rolled "scared" poker.)