Hi, im having troubles ( a lot ) of self discipline and i cant stand to loose a few bucks i go and play sng hu turbos to try to recover and i lose all my brm i play poker for at least 8 years i always have a leak on "long terms", the thing is right now a i have a really shi** job and i really wont to live from this, i think im a decent player who can beat any limit (i beat nl50 when i have the best focus and discipline time, before i go broke like a ******), so recently i start to play nl2 but i have no pacience and i cant loose 3 bi because i get desesperate, maybe i think its because i have to go work 8/9hs straight and this make me get tired.

Well the main point here its..If we have a lack of discipline in real life, will it be reflected in the poker table?, If we are lazy in real life, will we be at the poker tables?, and any leak u think, its reflected in our career as poker players?.

English is not my main lenguage sry for that.

( any advice other than the common ones will be well received)

I know I am, I didn't play poker for almost 10 years partly because I made enough money from it to do literally **** all for the next couple of years.
Now my funds are running a bit lower and I want to buy more cars so I'm getting back in to poker, but just because I'm too lazy for a fulltime job.
This mentality also reflects in my play, I play an as simple as possible strategy with the least amount of difficult decisions so I can watch youtube or anime while I'm sitting at the table :P.

you have to play at least nl500 to make a good money to buy a car i imagine.

I play live and 400nl or 500nl if it runs is what I play.

Beating a stake means winning 20+ buy ins at least over tens of thousands of hands. You can't beat 50nl, you just said you can't beat 2nl

what i ment was i was beating nl50 in a sample of 100k hands then i tilt for 2 days and went broke like a ******, that its what i want to say.

If you beat a level and then go broke due to tilt, then you aren't beating a level. Beating a level includes tilt, playing tired, etc, you don't get to pick the good parts and ignore the bad.

If you have problems with tilt, then you should try to address them. It's not impossible. Man, I used to recommend Tommy Angelo's audiobook series about it, but I can't find it online any more. Maybe it was exclusive content from deucescracked and was never available online, not sure.

When I played poker a lot, I got a lot from that series, which contains just tons of good advice. I used a lot of that advice to help myself in areas other than poker. I haven't read his book Painless Poker but it seems like it might have some similar insights.

poker is a 24 hour 365 day job. if you fall off the wagon for 1 second you can go broke. you have to be on it at all times. you have to have mentality they arnt gonna get 1 extra red nickle from you due to any swings or variance. You watch them go on tilt and punt away 100bb stacks and in reverse you give up not even a loose limp in. You need to have the variance fuel you to play sharper to play everyhand from pre to river perfect,showem what it take to be the best and have it make you go above and beyond what they do. Dont get mad get sharper. prove to them your better than them in this area. composer is a skillset. The players that excel at it have a large edge esp at smaller limits as its has the biggest affect on ur bottom line

At the poker table, you are your own worst enemy.

I think ungar said that, not sure.

i will look about it, about beating a lvl i already explain, when i was without problems outside poker, stress by my job, problems with my family i was 100% focus and really discipline i was a plalying my A game now im with a lot of troubles thats why im having troubles of my discipline, but im beating nl2 anyways, im now on nl10.

wow, really good advice im printing this, ty.

I'm not sure what this has to do with poker theory, but....
I would say YES, but it really depends upon your personality and how your behaviour manifests itself. You could be "lazy" about housework, but very determined to succeed at poker.
For example, some people are dedicated to their careers ("workaholics"), but are pretty ****ty parents. Some people are very dedicated heroin addicts that always find a way to get their fix, despite not having a job.

If poker is your main priority, you would focus on being the best poker player you can be (including fixing your mental game), even if it meant other parts of your life were less than perfect. i.e. You can be a 'lazy' human, but a very good and determined poker player.

Not too many fields in life where second class effort gets us first class results.

Poker is not one of those fields.

There is no tilt in good poker. The strategy of optimal poker involves swings and assumptions of players. So long as they fit your model you will inevitably win. A good player will naturally be giving many bad beats to opponents rather than taking them. Not sure how you can get mad for sucking out or failing to suck out . If you are a 38% equity dog you will get used to losing pots.

I think it's probably true that nitty or loose tendencies in poker may correspond to psychological habits in real life. Probably other tendencies too.

But you my friend - you are NOT any sort of good poker player. Discipline is not the issue, though it may be AN issue. It is simply not your game and you need to find something else to find success. You don't understand the math and you get way too emotional. Play for fun with small stakes if you want, you may even profit, but not enough to live on.

However shi* your job is, presumably it pays. Poker ain't going to.

its fnny how a lot of pro players back in time get post like this, " you wont have succed" "its dificult, go and make a normal job", idk why u say everything u say if u dont know me, but w/e .

Thanks all for the feedback.

After work, the brain or/and the body is best put off, so one is lazy mentally or/and physically after enough work as a long run. The ideal is to leave enough time for recovery and living but that is a goal, not the way, or you never get to your goal.

If one would do something else with the same aptitude, it would be done as well or as bad.

The tilt issues are a part of the learning process; for some more, for some less, as it depends on how emotional and negative one is.

The temperament is a factor that guides people. The best players are said to have a universal style but that's not fully true.

I believe you still can beat the lowest stakes having tilt issues, although it's definitely a problem

If you play a lot eventually you'll stop breaking into tears after every bad beat, you just kinda get numb, at least that's what happened to me

well updating im in nl25 now, i think im better at mental game, not enough anyways, i didnt have bad sesions, so for now i cant talk much, but im better on this.

breathing techniques and changing the thoughts, idk what happen when i have 3 or 4 or more bad days, thats where the strong mind have to pop out.


All your feedbacks are really good guys.