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Hero Cold Called a OR, Villain Squeezes, OR Calls; Should Hero has a Folding Range? Hero Cold Called a OR, Villain Squeezes, OR Calls; Should Hero has a Folding Range?

10-06-2017 , 08:59 AM
We squeezed making it a PSR, so assuming everyone not involved in the hand fold, OR would get 2:1 and if OR call the cold caller would get 3:1 odds. The cold caller should have a folding range here? Even if the squeezer squeeze really tight, he should recoup his losses whenever he flop good. For example if the cold caller got a pair probably he shouldn’t fold, call 100% of the times, accept he’s going to miss very very often. I’m asking this because I fold a lot as a cold caller, when I get a squeezed and a call from OR. In my mind, my range is too weak compared to the others and I won’t be able to call profitably. Probably this is a huge mind leak
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10-06-2017 , 11:50 AM
Some of the hands that flat the initial raise should be strong enough to withstand a squeeze, either when the original raiser folds, or when he calls and you overcall.

e.g. In the this spot, MP opens 2.25x, hero flats (JJ) in CO, BB squeezes with a PSR, MP calls. CO should overcall, because JJ will be profitable multiway in position.



It should also be profitable in this spot to overcall QQ (if you didn't 3-bet pre), AQs, maybe TT and probably some small SCs (76s, 65s, 54s) too. AQo, AJs, KTs, QJs, JTs and even 99/88 might be slight losers as overcalls. If your initial flatting range is much wider, then you are indeed vulnerable to squeezes, which is why (in tough games) you shouldn't do much cold-calling pre-flop in the first place, as you'll have to fold to squeezes so often. Note also that if the squeezer makes a larger raise than pot, your odds will be worse and you have to fold to the squeeze more often.

If the squeezer has position on you, then it really sucks. If BTN had squeezed vs MP+CO in my example, and MP flats the 3-bet, I think even jacks have to fold, as it will be so hard to control the pot-size/get to showdown OOP to the squeezer. Your flatting range would be so capped and face up in that spot (looking like QQ-TT) that BTN should be able to play perfectly against you.
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10-06-2017 , 05:39 PM
If the squeezer has position on you, then it really sucks. If BTN had squeezed vs MP+CO in my example, and MP flats the 3-bet, I think even jacks have to fold, as it will be so hard to control the pot-size/get to showdown OOP to the squeezer. Your flatting range would be so capped and face up in that spot (looking like QQ-TT) that BTN should be able to play perfectly against you.


Don't you think any PP would be a call? You flop a set 11% of the times and you are getting 25% odds pre. At least one but should go in OTF so you should at least BE with your PF call
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10-06-2017 , 06:45 PM
I guess it depends how bad your opponents are. At the lower stakes pure set-mining should still be profitable, but there's a small but significant risk of getting oversetted if the pot gets very big. (I had a spot yesterday where someone flatted a squeeze with 88. He didn't do too well on A8x when I had aces, and it will take him a lot of successful set-mines to make up the losses from that one hand). I'd recommend checking your database to see how well you do with pocket pairs OOP in multiway pots.
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