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01-08-2018 , 01:55 PM
That's fine. Please note that you won't be able to promote your site here, either, unless you buy an ad. If you'd like to announce your book you can do it in the Books and Publications forum, subject to their rules. I don't really know all the rules but it looks like you are allowed to start a short thread about your book.

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/3...olicy-1619293/

Read this thread too:
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/3...-2-2-a-507819/

I honestly don't know too much about it so if I were you I'd look around and make sure you understand the rules.
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01-08-2018 , 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Yadoula8
Exploitation will take over and my book will be the foundations on which the new poker world is built.
You do understand that while the exploitative players are leveling each other in your new world, the GTO players are just crushing them left and right, right?
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01-08-2018 , 02:09 PM
Errrm, I dont think you grasp what I just said Rusty.

I obviously don't plan on promoting that site here. The way it is to be promoted is genius. And, I didn't promote the book in that post and you know it! All I did was describe the content factually in response to the non-factual degrading comments about it. Factual posts on the content is supposed to be allowed on this site, and non factual insults are not supposed to be allowed. But, you sir, are biased against all those who don't use GTO. The simple truth is that content in my book is real impressive, and not GTO, so you decided to remove the post.

You have been against me since the beginning Rusty. You may think yourself a good man but you're dark mate. If you dont some day apologise you will be going to a bad place when your time here is done.

Last edited by Yadoula8; 01-08-2018 at 02:21 PM.
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01-08-2018 , 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ZKesic
You do understand that while the exploitative players are leveling each other in your new world, the GTO players are just crushing them left and right, right?
Yeah right lol, you micro stakes players GTO guys are going to walk all over us... Byyyyyeeee!!!

Last edited by Yadoula8; 01-08-2018 at 02:21 PM.
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01-08-2018 , 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Yadoula8
You cant prevent the inevitable. Exploitation will take over and my book will be the foundations on which the new poker world is built.
This prediction flies in the face of the historical evidence of technical progress. It was actually inevitable that players would move away from exploitable play and towards whatever is harder to beat.
Exploitative/exploitable poker has been superseded by more theoretically sound poker, because players learned how to prevent exploitative plays working against them. In more simple terms - they got better at poker. In the future, the endbosses aren't going to get worse. They will get better and better, meaning they play closer and closer to optimal solutions.
To use the tired old chess analogy, you can't beat a 'GTO' chess bot (or a Grandmaster) by doing something 'exploitative' or sub-optimal. You'll just lose. The same applies to poker. Exploitative/unbalanced players are on the way out. Their tricks don't work against regs, and there aren't enough fish to keep them alive. Indeed, the "anti-GTO" brigade have themselves become the fish.
It's true that the rise of "GTO play" means it's getting harder and harder to make money at poker, but that's to be expected. If players get better at something, you lose your edge. But trying to turn the clock back to the time before solvers and training sites existed isn't possible, and the idea that exploitation will be the foundation of a "new poker world" is delusional, frankly.
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01-08-2018 , 04:01 PM
In addition, the name of the forum provides some clue why certain topics are discussed more than others in this forum.
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01-08-2018 , 04:17 PM
Decided to make a re-appearance now eh Arty. Haha, you're not off the hook man. You still cant even comprehend you're perceived range. You're not even a Level Three player and unless you advance you wont get out of the micros. But whatever. On your own mate. We could have taught you something here, but the people on this site aren't capable.

Yeah, games do generally move closer to GTO, but there are ways to prevent that. You guys have no idea. Nobody ever knew strategy like I do. I understand how exploitation will take over but yeah, I'm not going to bother explaining it to you fools.

I'm done with this player pool.

Last edited by Yadoula8; 01-08-2018 at 04:27 PM.
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01-08-2018 , 04:51 PM
OK, you're done. So stop posting?
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01-08-2018 , 07:59 PM
Yeah man, I'm done.
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01-08-2018 , 08:28 PM
Apparently not!
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01-09-2018 , 10:09 PM
Yadoula, is there only 3 levels to your system ?
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01-09-2018 , 10:19 PM
Can we all agree that yadoula streaming has the potential to be greatly entertaining? If so, please encourage him.
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01-09-2018 , 10:48 PM
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Can we all agree that yadoula streaming has the potential to be greatly entertaining? If so, please encourage him.
Agree I would potentially pay a nominal fee to watch haha.
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01-10-2018 , 10:54 PM
Well me I tried play HU vs pokersnowie this evening and I winning.
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01-13-2018 , 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Yadoula8
You still cant even comprehend you're perceived range. You're not even a Level Three player and unless you advance you wont get out of the micros.
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01-28-2018 , 02:42 PM
Yadoula8 is vandalizing poker related Wikipedia pages with his insane exploitation ramblings under the username Yadijavadi. His edits are unreadable messes. I found this thread by literally googling some of the phrases he used over there lol.
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01-28-2018 , 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by albedoa
Yadoula8 is vandalizing poker related Wikipedia pages with his insane exploitation ramblings under the username Yadijavadi. His edits are unreadable messes. I found this thread by literally googling some of the phrases he used over there lol.
I've just read some of his "contributions". He's attacking GTO again, only this time on Wikipedia.

Also, he's adding into it a bunch of new words/expressions that he "invented", like they're facts. Even though no one else has ever heard of them before.
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01-28-2018 , 03:15 PM
Incessant spamming/trolling 2+2 is one thing, but vandalizing wikipedia pages is going too far.

Last edited by whosnext; 01-28-2018 at 03:45 PM.
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01-28-2018 , 03:29 PM
He seems to also be speaking about himself in 3rd person :
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Yadi Javadi states that there are two ways we can deceive our opponent.
- The standard bluff: To make a standard bluff, we make it look like we hold cards that are in our perceived range which we do not actually hold to induce an imminent mistake from our opponent.
- The Pre-adjustment: To make a pre-adjustment, we make a play on earlier streets of betting to induce the opponent to remove the hand that we actually hold from our perceived range so that we can more effectively take advantage of them on future streets of betting.
(he wrote all of this)
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01-28-2018 , 03:35 PM
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In extension, Yadi Javadi states that; "If the ''range of cards'' you appear to hold in any given situation is the same as the range of cards that you could actually hold in that situation, there is no way for you to hold an advantage over your opponent ''on average''. In the long run there is no way to gain from a rational player unless they misjudge the range of cards that you could hold. For example; If the opponent thinks that you hold an equal amount of bluffs - strength, he himself will continue in the pot with a range containing an equal amount of bluffs and strength and on average there will be no gains made. However, if the opponent thinks that most of the hands you could hold are strong, when in truth, most of the hands you could actually hold are bluffs, you will be able to take an advantage by making him fold more often than he should.<ref>The Levels, by Yadi Javadi</ref>
He's even referencing his own book (which doesn't exist yet)
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01-28-2018 , 03:36 PM
Before Yadoula:
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'''Hand reading''' is the process of making educated guesses about the possible cards an opponent may hold, based on the sequence of actions in the pot. The term 'hand reading' is actually a [[misnomer]], as skilled players do not attempt to assign a player to an exact hand. Rather they attempt to narrow the possibilities down to a range of probable hands based on the past actions of their opponent, during both the current hand and previous hands played by this opponent.
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'''Hand reading''' is the process of making educated guesses about the possible cards an opponent may hold, based on the sequence of actions in the pot. The term 'hand reading' is actually a [[misnomer]], as skilled players do not attempt to assign a player to an exact hand. Rather they attempt to narrow the possibilities down to a range of probable hands based on the past actions of their opponent, during both the current hand and previous hands played by this opponent. AND FOR THIS REASON, THE THEORUM OF POKER IS ALMOST COMPLETELY USELESS TO ANY GOOD POKER PLAYER. BUT SOMEONE KEEPS DELETING MY EDITS, SO UNLUCKY!! YOU WILL HAVE TO WAIT A FEW YEARS FOR WIKIPEDIA TO CATCH UP.
lol
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01-29-2018 , 08:26 AM
lol fantastic read.
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01-29-2018 , 02:20 PM
The book does appear to exist. Looks like it was published a few days ago?
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01-29-2018 , 05:23 PM
The definition of a bluff on Wikipedia is all confused. They are confusing what you GTO players call a bluff, with what the rest of the world calls a bluff.

- GTO bluffs are simply bets with a weaker portion of our actual range. You are not deceiving anybody when you make a GTO bluff, nor are you attempting to.
- To an exploitative player, and to everyone else in the world, deception is essential for the bluff.

I also tried to add pre-adjusting to the descriptions of deception in Poker, as it is clearly different to a bluff, and is clearly deceptive. Unfortunately, Wikipedia is created by common folk, people like you guys. It isn't strictly correct information, just information that is popularly understood as such. And, as the vast majority of the poker world is going insane right now, it looks like it will be a while before sites like wikipedia catch up with the new poker logic that I've discovered. It will happen, my book is the best book for beginners by miles. A new era has begun. GTO is going down, and exploitative is about to take over.
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