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Originally Posted by TheGodson
Oh, wow didn't know that. Seems pio is cooler than I thought.
Fishing and YouAreAwesome, I think this can be settled quite easily.
Fishing used MDF, which is a game theoretical concept to build a strategy. He never mentioned anything about exploitation, but I'm guessing that is implied. Fold more than your MDF strategy, if your opponent is reluctant to bluff. Call more than your MDF strategy, if your opponent is a chronic bluffer.
Also, nobody plays exactly GTO. I think it is pretty ridiculous to claim otherwise. I mean, theoretically there could be a pink bunny with 5 eyes living on Saturn, but I think it is safe to say that there isn't.
Fishing claims to use GTO/exploitative styles mixed together. But to show this gave an example of a hybrid MDF strategy. He said nothing of exploiting. He said nothing of GTO. He did not qualify his initial "mixing" claim. In fact, if you are defending his argument by saying that the exploitation is implied, then he is adding nothing to the conversation (sorry to be blunt). This point has already been stated multiple times ITT. In fact, all he would be saying is that MDF is a GTO strategy that can be used to exploit people. Two problems. One, he didn't actually say this. Second, who cares, it's obvious MDF can be used in certain circumstances to help make decisions.
For the second thing, about no one playing GTO, this is not what he said. He said, "I haven't seen it" as though he would notice it if he did see it. Anyway, nice attempt to blur the points as though I just "misunderstood" what he was saying, but nope.