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Originally Posted by TheGodson
Basically the math is: 1 - [Their risk]/[Their risk + Pot size] to get the amount you need to defend.
Where did we get this formula (an honest question. I'm trying to understand how MDFs work)
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Originally Posted by Donovan
the fact that villain can get lucky and hit flops when he is bluffing gives you incentive to defend MORE and to 4 bet some
the fact that YOU can get lucky and hit a flop when he is actually value betting means you can call more often than you could if you lost every time you called incorrectly.
The fact that equity is not 100 and 0 percent in pre-flop poker makes these spots incredibly complex but my deep intuition is that you'd wanna add a whole lot more than 5% to the required defense if you were dead against his value and he wasn't live with his bluffs.
We just have more incentive to play flops as the caller when we are beat AND as 4 bettor to shut his hands out than what the normal defense percents assume.
I'm guessing the min defense frequencies are off by a lot and it obv depends tremendously on the stack depths. If no more money goes in post flop then it's likely closer to the math in the first answers.
Am I out of line for believing that tournament play, especially late stages, would add even more considerations to this?
Thanks guys.