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BTN vs BB, tough spots on a dry board BTN vs BB, tough spots on a dry board

08-22-2019 , 11:05 PM
So I'm analyzing BTN vs BB on a Ad6s2c board, deep stacked. Basically, super dry A high board. Villain is unknown good player. Now, on a first sight BTN has range advantage (58% range vs range) and nut advantage. Thus, we can reasonably expect BTN to be betting around 65% of the time. In reality, most people probably bet more than that. However, as I'm analyzing this spot I find it very difficult to put together that many hands. I want to hear your thoughts on these hands:

1. JJ - check-back or bet-call?
2. JTdd - bet-call?
3. 88 - check back or bet-call?
4. 87dd - bet-call?

Problem is, if we bet-fold these hands villain can check-raise any two and print money. What you think about these spots?
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08-23-2019 , 05:15 AM
1 and 2 are check backs..2 and 4 are bets and we barrel when we improve

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08-23-2019 , 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by 4erkez

What you think about these spots?
I would be curious to know how you came to this conclusion.
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08-23-2019 , 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by just_grindin
I would be curious to know how you came to this conclusion.
JJ is big favorite vs BB's calling range, has roughly 60%, so I thought it's clear value bet. 88 has lower equity, around 56%, but also benefits more from forcing BB to fold high cards. JTdd and 87dd have around 29% vs checkraise and we can continue calling on many turns, so I thought they would be bet calls.
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08-23-2019 , 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by 4erkez
JJ is big favorite vs BB's calling range, has roughly 60%, so I thought it's clear value bet. 88 has lower equity, around 56%, but also benefits more from forcing BB to fold high cards. JTdd and 87dd have around 29% vs checkraise and we can continue calling on many turns, so I thought they would be bet calls.
Hmmm I guess I am not following.

If we bet and fold these hands (vs a raise) how are we allowing villain to profit off of any 2 cards?

Edit: Read my previous post quoted the wrong part which is why your answer is different than what I was expecting :-)
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08-29-2019 , 01:27 PM
do we cbets 6x's and why?
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08-29-2019 , 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Vai123
do we cbets 6x's and why?
Probably. Blocks sets, blocks A6, folds out over cards with decent equity, can fold some over pairs in the range if they are in bb flat range. Higher the kicker probably less likely to cbet. Backdoor draws probably more likely to cbet (say 56dd).
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