As the title I need find what is the best strategy in Scenario SB vs BB but with a special condition.
- Table have straddle 2bb
- Table have Ante 0.5bb
- Table have 8 seat


In A normal Scenario (we call it S1) we are BvB on SB to decide how to do and the dead money is 1.5bb


In this Scenario (we call it S2) we are BvB to decide how to do and we have 8*0.5= 4bb of Antes, 0.5bb of Sb, 1bb of BB and 2bb of STRADDLE, a total of 7.5bb


Limping

In S1 you have odds of 0.5/2= 25%
in S2 you have odds 1/8.5= 11.8%

Limping is the Solution, tbo I dont know if with a lot dead money and in general versus avg. Regs limping is best choices becouse they are relly bad in general and in this case the dead money is really high (S1=1.5bb and S2=3.75 STRADDLE


2nd Idea

What do you think about ''miniraise''?
In this table 5/10/20(5 Antes), BvB i bet 40 for win 115 and I create a FE% of 26% (they need to defend top 74% at least)
If I open 50 I generate a FE of 32%.
They need to defend the top 68%


I havent PIOSOLER Preflop :/
Thanks in advice!

I don’t think about preflop play like this. Instead I think about the available ranges that I can raise and which size those ranges work better with. Big blind vs straddle with antes? Depending on how deep stacks are I would prefer to charge at least 2:1 with short stacks and closer to 1.5:1 with deeper stacks.

this is wrong, they need to defend much more because you can also win the pot postlop.

@Ohly, I mean the matematical fe%.

I make to you an example:
If I bet 40(but I altready put before 10) for a pot of 115, I invest 30 for 115
30/115=26%
They need to defend at least top 74%
They defend J4o? Q2o? 92o?
I think is really hard to defend this type of hands and postflop in any case vs a strategy 25% flop cbet I think I make a lot pression..


In any case, if I limp I have unreal good odds but I give free texture and vs a raise in any case I play OOP :/

On tables 5/10/20(5) min. buy in is 1000 (100bb but 50straddle)
In general peoples play with 100 straddle.


Can you make me a practical example where we are Bvb and all 2 players have at least 2000 stack and 4000 stack? ty

A min-raise doesn't make sense. You're offering good enough pot odds to the IP player that they can defend 100% of hands. Either limp or make a bigger raise.

I agree with browni3141 in the fact that straddle player can defend 100% of his hands when you minraise. It also doesn't really benefit you most of the time since you will be OOP. Pick a sizing from 60 to 70 looks nice to me since that is around a pot sized raise for straddle.

From the SB, I don't think limping is a good strategy since you will be up against two opponents yet to act. From the BB, I think you can treat it like a normal BvB situation as if you were with the SB and straddle player was the BB.

Since your opponents will have a good price to call you, you'll need some very strong hands to open up with. Something like 55+, Axs, suited broadway, A9o+, KJo+. Your position is going to suck so bad versus opponents that will likely call or even raise. I believe it is correct to be very tight here.

From the BB vs. straddle it is good to be loose since the price is nice and you only have one opponent to deal with. Here you can mix it up with a mixture of raises and limps of various hands.

i understood you, but this is incorrect, i will give you an example: in shortstacked heads up situations at around 30bb you will be pretty much indifferent between minraising and folding a hand like 72o. with your "mathematical fe" villain would be defending 50% in order to make you indifferent, but this is completely underestimating his actual defense frequency which is something around 80%. if he'd only defend 50% you would be break even with 72o without ever winning a hand when he calls, but at least on the very strong boards you are going to make a profit, like when you flop 2 pair or better.

your formula only makes sense in a context where very little preflop calling happens. afaik in some cashgames there won't be flats oop to preflop 3bets so there you can almost apply it, even though you still have to account for other players' actions at the table.

please let me know if this makes sense or if we are misunderstanding each other.