IDK which section this goes under, but basically I bought GTO+, solved PIO's 74 flop subset for BTN vs BB SRP, 2.25x, using pokersnowie's recommended ranges (not that preflop advisor thing, but the actual software). So, ranges are probably a bit tighter than most people are used to, but I'm sure you can still benefit from the solves

Not at my PC now, but the tree is as follows

25,75,150% bet sizes on all streets, besides OOP donking range on the flop, which is 50% size only, and OOP check raise size, which is either 33 or 90%, and IP raise size is 50%.

I don't have much to offer this community in terms of actual advice haha, but hopefully this can be helpful for people who own GTO+ but don't have a computer powerful enough to solve something like this.

I think I used reasonable sizings, maybe 200% woulda been better than 150%. I wanted to do 33,90% raise size IP as well but it was taking too long, and started using more than 64 gigs of ram

Anyway, is there a specific place to post the solver save file? Should I just upload it to google drive or something and share the link?

Google drive works, you can upload it there and share the link.

You can also submit it to the public Zenith sim library. They have many contributors and a great collection of open source sims.

Thanks for sharing your work!

It's not really my work, I just pressed a button and went to sleep haha.

What I really need to do is find a way to export snowie ranges to JSON or some other format, and then again from there to GTO+ range input. The most annoying part about these solves is inputting the ranges when half the hands are mixed freq. Reading memory directly probably breaks TOS and could be a pain in the ass. Off the top of my head OCR seems like that way to go. That way you can input a 'scenario' as they call it, view opening range, and convert a screenshot directly to a GTO+ useable range

I'll upload this to drive or megashare or whatever free hosting solution and paste a link here later tonight.

Cheers!

If you get flopzilla pro you can export ranges for any node from GTO+ to Flopzilla with the click of a button, where you can simply copy the weighted range.

Alternatively, you can export all the node data to a spreadsheet. It will show the number of combos for each hand, and you can use that to get the ranges. Ask the GTO+ 2+2 thread for details.

Interesting, but those are not solved preflop ranges right? Neither are Snowie's, but they're probably reasonable

Ok I can't figure out how to edit the post haha so I'll just post the download link here

https://gofile.io/d/rJxAug

I found some random free hosting site that didn't make me sign up nor did it impose a file size limit (the solve is a bit over 8gigs or something). They say they may take it down if the download goes inactive for a long time, so if you're reading this in the future and the link is down, just let me know and I can re-upload/send it to you

Mods if this isn't allowed or if I need to run the file by you first or something let me know

Otherwise, enjoy! Hopefully this can be of use to some of you cause god knows I don't know what the **** to do with it

I just found out there are solved 50nl stars ranges, so im going to resolve using those, tweak the check raise sizing a bit, the overbet size, and add multiple IP river raise sizings

Sorry Im a bit of a noob, can you explain what exactly you solved? to my understanding seems like you solved a flop IP/OOP strategies for BU vs BB 2.25x RFI size for 74 different flops?

Second question is to why would you be releasing the information for free?

Exactly

And idk, why not? Lots of smart people here giving away valuable advice for free

Thats great man, thank you for sharing!

will you post the resolved ranges here? 50nl solved ranges arnt that common afaik so will be a great resource, to see how the high rake should adjust the preflop strategy

curious what you mean you dont know what to do wit it? Will you not be analyzing the results?

Well actually I found out from another user here that GTOWiz posted solved 50nl ranges online for free, which is awesome in and of itself. I'm not posting the ranges, but rather the solver output. So, how it plays those ranges from the BU/BB on 74 different flops that are weighted to most accurately represent all 1700something possible flops, or something like that.

Brain too small

That's awesome.

If you're looking for solved 100bb charts, I recommend

Zenith Poker. You have to make a free account to view all the charts, but it's very worth it.

You could also try Johnathan Little's free GTO charts. They are simplified versions of what you'll find in the book Modern Poker Theory by Acevedo.

I'll check them out, thanks!

I'm curious to hear your thoughts on these

https://gtowizard.com/study/solution...Complex&filter

They have solved ranges for 50nl and 500nl, difference being rake I guess. They'll make you sign in with google or facebook though which kinda sucks. They claim they're solved using monkersolver, and they cover all preflop scenarios, so in theory they even solved for spots with multiple limpers and so on

Edit: BTW, resolving all these flops with these ranges + some extra bet size options. It maaaay be split into 2 files if I can't figure out how to work the GTO+ export/split feature. Obviously the core functionality of the program is great, but the UX is honestly amongst the worst I've seen. And I'm a software dev for a living so I've had to deal with terrible/complete lack of documentation before. GTO+ really is not user friendly once you try to do anything even remotely advanced with it.

Awesome dude, will wait for your link, and thanks again man, my brain is probably too small to analyze and interpret the outputs as well, but ill give it a shot haha, cheers!

GTO wizard has great ranges. The Zenith solves are also based on monker. I look forward to seeing your results.

GTO+ is great for simple analysis and ease of use, but it fails hard when it comes to complex analysis. Pio is really what you want for that type of analysis as it's entirely scriptable.

Could you explain what solver scripting is? I have also read that PIo is better than gto+ because of the ability to run scripts but had no idea what it meant. Is it something to do with mass solving? I even googled it but all the info says something about automation without a clear explanation

pio and gto+ with flopzilla are virtually the exact same except pio runs faster

Pio scripting and analog goes much deeper than what GTO+ offers.

Pio can be completely controlled with code. Everything from designing the tree to node-locking strategies to reporting on specific lines. You could hypothetically code it to solve for the optimal bet size at one node through trial and error. You could code it to compile strategy reports for specifically BXB river nodes. You could strip it down and create a literal dream machine; calculating GTO in real time. You can seperate subtrees, rebuild just that part of the tree, and resolve.

But most people will never used that functionality.

Damn that's sick. I have no use for most of that as I'm just nowhere near that skill level (yet?), but just being able to progamatically design the game trees, ranges etc would be a godsend. If I stick with this I'll probably have to look into it

yooo i made a new thread

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/1.../#post57031507

will delete this one soon

if i understand OP's question correctly the could just get zenith poker ranges (not the free ones and C&P them into GTO+