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Whats your default Approach vs loose Preflop Callers Whats your default Approach vs loose Preflop Callers

09-26-2023 , 10:22 AM
Let's say there's a villain to your right - he's basically unknown (since you played not much hands with him), however, you noticed that he's a loose canon preflop and overcalls with a wide range of hands. What's your default preflop 3bet and postflop strategy against this player?

A) Continue to play GTO with a balanced range of value hands and bluffs (until you have further information about his playstyle).

B) Drop all bluffs and just value3bet against him and keep the standard GTO betting plan postflop (w/o bluffs).

C) You assume that this player will have a hard time defend on the flop against cbets, therefore, you increase your overall 3bet frquency with a lot of bluffs in order to take your auto-profit flop cbet spot as often as possible. If villain calls your flop cbet you give up most of the time.

D) Something completely else which you will explain in detail ;-).
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09-26-2023 , 11:20 AM
If he’s to your right, then is he limpcalling? Or calling vs an initial raiser?
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09-26-2023 , 12:33 PM
I have in mind two scenarios, 1) opponent limp/calls and 2) openraise/calls 3bet, both too wide.
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10-04-2023 , 02:56 AM
you could play GTO and have more flop bluffs to attack their weak range on the flop or you could cut out a lot of your 0ev 3bet bluffs pre. You really need to see how they play the hand all the way through to come up with a good exploit plan. Some players will call super lose pre then massively over fold compared to GTO when you cbet. Some will mass overcall 3b pre and over raise your cbets on the flop because by golly they aint gonna be pushed around. Thats not to say knowledge of how they play the flop isn't valuable because it is.
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10-04-2023 , 03:08 AM
This brings me to another problem. I play live and online poker on GG, with no HUD allowed. My notes and exploits focus primarily on hands with a showdown. I find it extremely difficult (without a HUD) to keep track of opponents' frequencies. Is there a good shotcut for this? In live poker, using an app to track frequencies is definitely not something I want to do.
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10-04-2023 , 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Kenji
This brings me to another problem. I play live and online poker on GG, with no HUD allowed. My notes and exploits focus primarily on hands with a showdown. I find it extremely difficult (without a HUD) to keep track of opponents' frequencies. Is there a good shotcut for this? In live poker, using an app to track frequencies is definitely not something I want to do.
at a hudless site personally i would just stick as close to GTO as i could as im not sure how to get robust stats in that situation but maybe others know a way.
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10-04-2023 , 08:49 AM
You need to study MDA in depth to understand what sizing's to use/what lines to take vs fish.
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10-07-2023 , 02:16 AM
Decrease cbet frequency and increase cbet sizing and increase overbet/potsize bet frequency on turn. Your goal is to make the opponent indifferent to calling and folding.
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11-07-2023 , 11:55 PM
I only play live, never online. I play low-stakes, 1/3, and see a ton of loose action. I'm not sure why, but I also seem to attract loose action. In my last session, another player at the table told me he never saw anyone's pre-flop raises attract more callers than mine do, and it wasn't like I was showing down garbage hands or torching money. I was big stacked, and showing down 4 or 5 monsters for every time I got caught bluffing.

When I've got loose / passive players behind me, and if it's becoming a problem, I'll tighten up on my open range, or raise bigger, or both. When I've got loose / aggro players behind me, I'll tighten up, start 4B'ing over their 3B's, and mix in some limp-back-raises.

If none of those adjustments solve the problem, I'll look to change seats, or change tables. Worst case, I'll take a break from the table, or switch on OMC mode for a few orbits and just nit it up.

This probably sounds stupid or crazy, but most low-stakes live players are pretty bad post-flop, especially the ones who are too loose pre-flop, so I usually just keep playing my game - sticking with my strategy of opening / 3B'ing any hand good enough to play, value-betting my strong hands, semi-bluffing my good draws, and mostly refusing to contribute anything more to the pot when I whiff.

I just out-play them.
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11-08-2023 , 12:37 AM
Preflop - We're saying that our fold equity is nonexistent, so we should be tightening up our weakest preflop opens.

Post-flop - If they're calling preflop too wide, but are otherwise a "normal" player, they're going to end up with far too many marginal holdings they feel the need to defend on the flop but will then fold to turn and river barrels. Against stations, we can bet thinly for value. Against agro-whales, we call down anything that looks remotely like a good hand.
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11-28-2023 , 01:42 AM
It does help playing the actual game a bit you know.
Not being a combination of equations.

But playing the man.

It's all the fun left in poker!

Why do you wanna kill it to "optimally exploit fish X"?
There is no need for it.

Just learn the game!

So.... although there in the end you have 7 cards, only the best 5 card combination
counts. Did you know this?
So there is no 3 pairs possible according to the standard rules.

I know you are new to the game, but did you know this?
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11-28-2023 , 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Kenji
I have in mind two scenarios, 1) opponent limp/calls and 2) openraise/calls 3bet, both too wide.
For the 1st scenario I've created video how solver adjust preflop range when facing the limp. There is part 2 coming soon with postflop detailed analysis. Enjoy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aYT...nel=PokerNiche
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12-08-2023 , 11:18 PM
chess.com

As if a solver could maximally exploit a fish.

"Oh, wait, I need to balance this now by 42% checking the nuts here."
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