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Originally Posted by aner0
Raising limpers is honestly where most of your winrate will be generated
Why is this?
The pot is now 2.5bb, but you are never taking this pot down pre-flop if you raise to a reasonable sizing as the limper has some kind of hand that he wants to see a flop with.
Surely your bb/hand is worse in limper hands because of this, as you have no pre-flop 2bet fold equity?
I agree that the limper is good for any potential 3bettors that are acting after our 2bet, as that limped 1bet now counts as extra dead money a good chunk of the time.
Weak limpers at our table is good overall, but that is when they call our open 2bets and 3bets with weak hands. The hands where they limp in and call a 2bet, and we specifically are the 2bettor, I find that we don't win as much money per hand as when we raise first in with a 2bet, as in the latter example we can win 1.5bb/hand when everyone folds, but this doesn't happen in the former as the limper will fight us for the pot with hands as strong as TT and JJ on occasion as well as his weaker stuff, and this hurts our EV.
A simple example to illustrate my point is say we open raise 87s on the BTN to steal the blinds then this will likely be higher EV than if we 2bet a limper when we are on the BTN with 87s.