Cause im having a difficult time making sense out of this one. will post pics later but just wanted to post the general situation real quick HJ rfi folded to SB who 3bets folded back around to HJ who calls the 3bet Flop is 7d4dAC. I know top set has to be checked some of the time as it kills the other guys calling range but GTO+ says SB should check top set nearly 100% of the time. Now here is where things get confusing IP mix between checking and betting TP2k bet if they bet SB should call with a set of aces almost always hardly ever raising. Long story short oop is supposed check call flop and turn assuming IP bets then spring the trap and check raise the river.

my bad i went back and realized oop is mainly check calling river with top set.

I even thought maybe i get ranges flipped and IP had the aces instead of oop but nope not the case.

Also final runout Ac7d4d4sjh

oop range

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IP range

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SBs over all flop strategy

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will post more later but gotta be away from PC for a little bit but as can be seen AA is almost a pure check. Any hand with a 7 is being bet at almost 100% but one question at a time

What is the question?

Every half decent reg check calls the A74 flop with AA. This stuff is very basic, sir.

Yes but flop isn't really the question are they check check calling the turn and river at a high frequency with top set. I get that top set needs to be checked a lot but don't we have to put in a check raise at some point to build a big pot? Anyway I'll post turn and river next time I'm at my pc

We hard block pretty much everything that calls our check raises. It's standard to check call 2-3 streets, depending on the run out.

I imagine on a board like

It's gonna raise the 2nd nuts at some point.

On the flop you double block top pair, and 2/3 AA also block the nut flush draw. It's very hard to get called by worse, so it's no surprise AA slowplays.

oops turn strat after calling flop bet

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strat versus turn double barrel

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oop river strat after facing double barrel

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If you shove turn or donk the river, what are you hoping to get called by?

smaller boats

wired aces that dont have a diamond admittedly not a lot of those combos for ip to have

any 4

also seems like some UPs without a diamond would call

You're gonna stack trips+ regardless of how you play it. Underpairs should be folding. So mostly you're trying to get value from top pair which you hard block. In situations like this it's often gonna be a lot more profitable to let them build the pot for you, piling in money with weaker value and bluffs.

I'm curious, if you XR-shove the turn, how wide are they calling in general? How are they calling when you specifically hold AA? I imagine the card removal would be very significant in that spot.

upon further review the reason it was check calling river is because SB didnt have enough left to raise. if i rerun the sim with larger effective stacks SB check raises top set on the river 100% of the time

ill rerun the sim in a bit with allin shove as an option

here ya go


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Thanks for sharing, dude45

I really wish there was an easy way to share sims. It's so annoying having to ask for different pictures, upload those pics to a 3rd party, and then upload a link to that 3rd party website here. Really slows down the analysis.

Yeah in the original sim there was nothing left to shove on the river, which is typical of triple-barreled 3bet pots.

The new sim you uploaded is much deeper stacked, and also a different turn card. The 4 on the turn in the original post reduced the amount of hands that can call the shove. On the brick deuce there are going to be proportionally more strong hands in their range that AA can extract value from.

If you want to calculate the card removal of shoving with AA (I know you don't, but I do lol :P ) then use the "combos" tab instead of "percentages". That makes it easier to recalculate their actual calling%/folding% based on what you hold.

I guess my main take is when your hand crushes your opponents calling range you need to check a lot which I kinda already understood. My confusion came from I've always heard it said that an ace on the flop is good for the aggressor and they should do a lot of betting.