Hey guys,

Can you please post or PM some most common flop types to work on the game in Flopzilla and PIO?
Something between 10 and 25 most common flops I guess.

The ten most common flops of all probably contain a deuce. (Because of pre-flop hand selection, ace-high flops are the least common, and holecards containing a deuce are the least likely to see a flop, meaning that a 2 is slightly more likely to appear on the board).
But restricting your studies to boards containing a deuce isn't going to be very useful.

(Spadebidder's studies showed that Aces make up only about 7.5% of the flopped cards instead of the 7.69% or 1/13 that a uniform rank distribution would yield, whereas deuces appeared around 7.8% of the time).

If you're making a list for study with Flopzilla/Equilab you should just aim to get a balanced mix of flop-types that is roughly in line with reality.
i.e. about 40% should be rainbow, 55% two-suited, and one in twenty is a monotone.
Of these, about 17% should have a pair on the flop.
Further dividing your flops into "two Broadways and a low card", "one Broadway and two low cards", "two connected cards and a blank (e.g. T93)" can give you a useful range of flops to study.

You can pretty much just write down a list of random flops and then check to see if you have too many aces, or not enough sixes or whatever, and then fix it to give roughly equal weighting to all the ranks.

A72r
Q72r
236r
AK2r
JT2r/ss
QT7r/ss
J98r/ss
556r
TT8ss
KK5r
AKQr
236sss
Q72sss

Maybe something like this?
Just add more that you are interested in or giving you trouble in game.

The above post is a good example of what I meant in my last paragraph above.
lolbin's deck apparently contains no fours.

FWIW, when I tried to make a list of representative flops for my own studies, I thought I had a decent mix of textures when I had 25, but then I kept finding gaps in my selections. I kept adding more boards until I had 45 (but still with the correct distribution of paired boards, two-tones, rainbows etc), but I still felt like some flops weren't represented, so the process never really ended.

I mean doesn't flopzilla have random flop generation? Surely just do this, or take some from your games that you found most puzzling, if you're playing at the moment.

https://www.piosolver.com/blogs/news...the-whole-game

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/07...46264467327999

granted, those work because they take weighting into account. i dont think their applications are exactly for what youre trying to do. however, its probably the best list you could come up with.

i would recommend studying flop textures individually. as in, spend a week studying paired boards, then move on to straight boards, straight draw boards etc. it will give you a more clear vision of the big picture.

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Thank you for your answers.

I had an idea recently to work on most common spots but on less flops to speed up the process of first iteration. How do you think what 7 flops would be the best for that?

Which the best 7 would you choos from this set

This is the picture of flops
Which the best 7 would you choose from this set?

What do you think about working on the right column first?

It really doesn't matter where you start (although boards like 999 are so uncommon that they are barely worth looking at), as you'll end up needing 25-50 flops to start drawing any strategic conclusions.
Just do some Axx, Kxx, Qxx etc (working downwards to lower cards, and add some paired boards) and you'll soon get the idea.

Thank you

This is confusing to me. Aren't A high flops the most common flop (21.74%), followed by K high flops (18,33%), Q high (15.22), and so on and so forth?

That is indeed true, but there is a slight difference between, A-high flops beeing the most common and Aces beeing the most common card in flops.

Every flop that contains an Ace is an A-high flop, but not every flop containing a King is a K-high flop (AK3 isnt for example). If you move further down the list A T-high flop cant even contain any A,K,Q,J giving it way less combinations.

If you factor in card removal due to specific ranges, Aces and Kings are less likely on a flop, but the category A-high will still be the most likely (my guess).