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Having a high vpip = beating up on regs? Having a high vpip = beating up on regs?

09-18-2009 , 02:48 PM
Whenever I raise and somebody calls me in position, i cbet, they call, then i usually give up on later street unless I hit and my opponent takes down the pot. Obv. sometimes its different if you have a good read that enables u to profitable barrel scare cards on later streets, but most of the time when that happens to me its really really annoying.

I also see regs (as well as myself countless of times) make some big mistakes where the same thing happens to them and they hold a big big hand. They end up losing money to bad players a lot of the time because they end up getting that straight/flush draw on the turn and get all the money in.

What do you guys think about calling in position with a good frequency of hands? I see a lot of regs with low c-bet percentages just give up if they dont hit and if u bet u can pick up the pot most of the time. Also if u do this, how often do you have to pick up the pot post-flop to make ur vpip breakeven-to being profitable?

Thanks
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09-18-2009 , 03:11 PM
How wide are we calling?

What would are vpip be?

Are we calling anyone or what kind of vpip's are we calling?

Are we going to flat call on the flop and bet the turn?

I ask myself if the opener is raising pre with a pp, broadway cards, or suited connectors?

If the opener is opening with a pp is it high or low?

If the pp is low then usually you won't see a bet without a set. But if no over cards to the pp come then you will see a bet.

If it is a high pp then how high? Lets say 10's through K's. If no overcards come then you will most likely face a bet.

Now if the villan has KK and no ace hits the flop and villan bets and we call on the flop then if any A hits the turn we bet and probally take it down. If the board is wet then any scare card on the turn and we might be able to take it down.

I basically follow the same logic with the other possiblites as well. ie..if the villian could have AK no A's or K's flat call a continuation on the flop and if no A's of K's or nothing that could give villan a straight then we could bet behind a check on the turn.

So it comes down to range for me. If a tight reg opens up and we have a suited connecter or whatever and we put the reg on a big hand then he is going to have a hard time laying it down if we hit are hand. Alot depends on how tight the reg is, how good does he know us, what kind of range he would open with up front.
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09-18-2009 , 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by LuKaLuX
Whenever I raise and somebody calls me in position, i cbet, they call, then i usually give up on later street unless I hit and my opponent takes down the pot.
Thanks

Try to put people on calling ranges.

If your opponent calls you from late position, but this person has a narrow calling range preflop, then it is likely that the flop hit his hand if high cards come out on the flop, or may even have an over pair to the flop.

If you know your opponent will only call you down with top pair or an overpair or better on the flop, then c-bets are more effective, because usually the flop misses your opponent. Also make note of who will call you down with draws, and who plays hands like suited connectors pre-flop (which means they will be more likely to have a drawing hand on the flop).



Do not c-bet for information. As a general rule, you don't want to bet or raise simply for information. Know your opponent's calling range, and try to exploit that in turn. If your opponent has a wide calling range on the flop, value bet them. If your opponent has a narrow calling range on the flop then bluff and semi-bluff c-bet them a lot.

So it depends more on your opponent's calling range, then what to do in general.
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