This Pot Limit game is now fully verified and confirmed. The results I got today are undeniable and obvious to read. You can see them in the illustrations below. But what struck me the most, there is a geometric connection that somehow proves the hand rankings structure. I would call it "the author's signature", but I didn't invent this connection. I've only FOUND it within my game last night. Have you ever seen anything like this ? I haven't. This is real poker, after all, not just some card game.

I hope this will encourage you to take 2 decks of cards at home and look closely at this game. It really does shine and I believe it surpasses PLO. I listed all its advantages (and some statistics) in my previous thread.

Now I really believe that "PL Big Five" will be played by many people someday in the future. If you want this to happen too, just click the "like" button in this post - this helps me a lot and creates positive thinking that may lead to actions be done faster by myself (with the game's promotion or testing, etc.).

Ok, so please keep posting, share some opinions or ask questions. I really want to know what you guys think about it.


Here are all five illustrations:







This would be it, I guess. 17 years of work to make this game. I hope you like it just as I do and thanks for the help.

PEACE !!
Game author: G. Jakubowicz

Your insignia is already taken by the church of Satan. Just thought you should know so they don't sue you for copyright infringement.

Don't worry, that's not the one. This one is a public domain and it's free to use

This kind of feels like the slideshows they show you during lectures in school.

I'm having trouble understanding why you included the slide that gives geometric verification. What's geometric verification?

Haha, I don't feel like I'm a lecturer

"Geometric verification" is a sort of a mathematical scheme which is like roots for a tree - you don't see it, but it's there, underground and the whole tree is based on it. Although in this case, these roots can exist on their own. You can separate this geometric phenomenon from the game and it will still be interesting. The fact that it's strictly connected to the hand rankings structure and hand types, means that this correctness can be seen as a solid proof or simply some kind of a message. It's like a next level or step forward from math to geometry, or from poker to geometry.

It's also possible that this phenomenon or connection was the main reason why I felt like being "called" by something all the time when working on this game. So this "verification" is probably even more important for me as an author than for others. It can matter more from my perspective, but I felt like this is a correct term to use.

Interesting. Other than representing a signature of sorts, is there some sort of deeper philosophical meaning that you attribute to these conclusions? About yourself or others? Benefits/negatives?

The fact that it's a pentagram makes me think deeply about it and it seems like another mystery for me which I need to solve.

I think the main conclusion for me from the philosophical perspective is that everything is connected to everything and the deeper you look into reality, the more patterns you see that make those connections. It kind of reminds me poker strategy - the more you analyze it, the more different perspectives and details start to appear.

I believe it was Gabe Kaplan who once said when making commentary on HSP that: "Poker is the microcosm of life" and he was right.

As long as people are considered and positive/negative aspects, well, the positive thing is that you always need another perspective (person) to confirm something important and this directs you towards other people. The negative side is that it's a lot easier to analyze things when the world around you slows down, and this directs you towards isolation. But at the moment I definitely see a lot more positives than negatives.

This game is from outer space, look at this ...

What I just did was a transcription of the geometric verification (illustration 3 of 5) into binary numbers. Each pentagram line is a 4 digit binary number:
- GREEN DOT = 1
- WHITE DOT = 0

First I converted all 5 pentagram lines in normal order (12345) and then reversed (54321). So first, you "draw" a star and then reverse the process starting from the same point (at the bottom of the pentagram).


Normal:

LINE 1 (Loose Card) => [binary 1111] = [decimal 15]
LINE 2 (Duplicate) => [binary 0111] = [decimal 7]
LINE 3 (Quick Run) => [binary 0101] = [decimal 5]
LINE 4 (Fourth Kind) => [binary 0001] = [decimal 1]
LINE 5 (Royalty Flush) => [binary 0000] = [decimal 0]


Reversed:

LINE 1 => [binary 0000] = [decimal 0]
LINE 2 => [binary 1000] = [decimal 8]
LINE 3 => [binary 1010] = [decimal 10]
LINE 4 => [binary 1110] = [decimal 14]
LINE 5 => [binary 1111] = [decimal 15]


What is easy to notice:

15 + 0 = 15
7 + 8 = 15
5 + 10 = 15
1 + 14 = 15
0 + 15 = 15

Number "15" isn't coincidental. It's the number of core cards within the hand rankings rectangle and also the number of line segments in the pentagram. I wonder if this thing goes anywhere further ... I hope not

i don't undestand anything you're saying but i like that it's a satan star so i'll play it

Click the "like" button then, please (in post #1)

This game simply comes out of the pentagram pictured in illustration "1 of 5". And this ain't just a metaphor, it's a fact. I'm suspecting there could also be a proof that verifies not only the hand rankings structure, but also all 5 hand types more precisely. This won't connect to geometry, but numbers instead. I'm betting on number 666. Not only because of its symbolic meaning, but also this number is quite unique mathematically. Maybe some number of combinations or something like that ... Let's see if I can find it inside my game.

But even if there's nothing more, I'm still quite shocked already. And the game haven't even been played, yet. This is so sick.

Looks like there is also a connection to number "666". Although it's not as "visible" as the pentagram verification with the binary transcription.

Number of possible combinations (but without kickers, core cards only):

1. Loose Card (1 card) => 16 combinations
2. Duplicate (2 cards) => 20 combinations
3. Quick Run (3 cards) => 16 combinations
4. Fourth Kind (4 cards) => 95 combinations
5. Royalty Flush (5 cards) => 204 combinations

When you multiply (16 + 95 + 204) by 2 and then add (16 + 20) the score will give 666. Hands number 3, 4 and 5 can be multiplied x2, because then two things will appear:
- the game setup (hole cards: 1 [1st card], 2 [2nd card] and community cards 3 [Flop], 4 [Turn] and 5 [River])
- 2 + 3 cards "must use" structure (12 / 345)

Multiplying by 2 is like pointing that community cards should show both indexes, while hole cards should show only 1 (during peek). It may somewhat seem funny and a little bit like a delusion or conspiracy theory, but to me as a game designer it fits all together quite well. It really seems like I translated the rules from another language that speaks with geometry and numbers.

I also think that I signed a deal with the Devil 17 years ago. I'm scared

This is probably because the verification wasn't 100% complete.

I hope the 3 new pictures will make it easier to understand.


Tell me please what do you guys think of them (looking from the poker perspective). My personal conclusion might be controversial, but I think that pentagram is a portal between what is real and what is unreal. It's because the binary numerical system is the basis of data storage and information processing for all computers, that display images into our minds through the screen. "Big Five" is a good example of how this all works. I only don't know yet if this portal works only for me or maybe for others too.

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