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Originally Posted by getmeoffcompletely
I have a hard time believing AA is ever supposed to just 4bet shove, but then again I don't play in these super high rake environments so it might be a correct play for 50NL. Generally as the 3bet positions get tighter you will see solvers 4bet shove stronger and stronger hands, because even hands as strong as KK don't really have that nutted of an equity advantage in these tight position couples. AKo is a hand that benefits immensely from this play for obvious reasons.
But because all of these are mixed actions in practice you should look at how your opponents are deviating relative to the solver solutions and pick the pure strategy. For example it's almost certain that shoving A5s or A4s UTG vs HJ is a losing play in basically any 50NL pool.
Yeah, In real games I will use A5s 4bet sometimes but never shove vs a 4bet. (I see people shove A5s though)
I think if V will use a very wide 4bet range (which is not happening in NL50) A5s shove can be a +EV action.
In another hand, if V only call shove with a strong range, we will lose when they call, get EV from they fold. In order to gain the max EV, we must mix some bluff hands in our shove range(AKs, QQ+), or V will simply exploit fold.
Or in NL50 pool nobody cares about balance, and there is no such exploit fold. GTO guarantee you have 0 EV, but 5bet shove only with value hand is more exploit and can get more value compare to a GTO range, Idk.