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3-betting when deep in NLHE 3-betting when deep in NLHE

11-25-2011 , 01:09 PM
Hi.

I've had some trouble lately in 3-bet pots when effective stacks are deeper than 100bb.

The problem is that I make my usual 3-bet size, and my opponents have the correct odds to set mine with any pair (assuming my range is strong enough, etc.)

So it seems that I must EITHER: (i) make a larger than normal 3-bet; or (ii) not necessarily be willing to stack off with an overpair, even though it is a 3-bet pot.

Is this correct? If not, what do I do?

Thanks very much!
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11-25-2011 , 05:43 PM
Yes, you don't have to stack off with overpairs when over 100bb deep. No need to make the raise bigger than 3x, let them try to set mine you, it's hard to flop sets.
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11-25-2011 , 08:02 PM
If theyre only setmining, start 3 betting more junk hands, and print bb's
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11-25-2011 , 09:14 PM
Open up your 3-betting range. If they call your 3-bets often, and then fold to a cbet, you wanna have a merged 3-betting range.
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11-26-2011 , 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by ThatsWhatIDo
Open up your 3-betting range. If they call your 3-bets often, and then fold to a cbet, you wanna have a merged 3-betting range.


Don't you want to have a polarized range of premiums and semi-bluffs if they are only 4betting monsters and folding on flop a lot? It seems we should only want a merged value range when they are calling the flop a lot as we will have better showdown value.
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11-27-2011 , 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by A_C_Slater
Don't you want to have a polarized range of premiums and semi-bluffs if they are only 4betting monsters and folding on flop a lot? It seems we should only want a merged value range when they are calling the flop a lot as we will have better showdown value.
A merged range means all your premiums and and very strong hands. The whole idea is that your merged range is stronger than their calling range for 3-bets, so You are technically raising for value, and stand to have the best hand most of the time. For example, you 3-bet AQ, an get called by QJ, KJ, AJ, etc...

How they play the hand post flop isnt that relevant, if they are really fit or fold player, you can make your merged range wider, but you should still 3bet a merged range.

If they fold a lot to 3-bets, then you polarize to monsters and weak hands with potential to flop a monster. Most of the time you're gonna take it down pre, so it doesn't matter what you have.
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12-01-2011 , 12:03 AM
In deep cash games - I typically only 3bet with AQs+, JJ+, or air (over 50% of my 3bets are air). Air is much easier to play postflop than a marginal hand.

Pot control is the key postflop - everything depends on your opponent and your position.
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12-01-2011 , 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by ThatsWhatIDo
Open up your 3-betting range. If they call your 3-bets often, and then fold to a cbet, you wanna have a merged 3-betting range.
Seems to me you want to add more value when you are getting to showdown often.

If people are folding a lot (preflop or on the flop) I'd think polarizing would be better.

You want to open up your value range when someone is refusing to give up.
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