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07-02-2009 , 03:47 AM

#26

buddhabuddhabuddha

journeyman

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 222

more power to you guys at IMEGA. THANKS FOR YOUR WORK

07-02-2009 , 06:45 AM

#27

Nick Rivers

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 4,726

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeapFrog

Are you saying online poker is illegal?

There aren't any domestic sites that spread poker online. Why do you think that is?

07-02-2009 , 07:02 AM

#28

NapoleonInRags

adept

Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 832

Good Luck and thanks for fighting.

07-02-2009 , 07:55 AM

#29

LeapFrog

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 5,538

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick Rivers

There aren't any domestic sites that spread poker online. Why do you think that is?

what makes you think I was asking about operators? If a question can be interpreted in a ******ed way and a non-******ed way and you assume I meant the ******ed way, does that mean you think so little of me? That hurts Nick Rivers

07-02-2009 , 01:35 PM

#30

permafrost

old hand

Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,968

Quote:

Originally Posted by joe@iMEGA

Online poker will be legal within the next four years. Bank it.

There is a good chance that the states may wind up leading Washington on this, because while the Fed government needs money, the states need it doubly so.

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeapFrog

Are you saying online poker is illegal?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick Rivers

There aren't any domestic sites that spread poker online. Why do you think that is?

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeapFrog

Good initial question, maybe joe will expand and clarify what facets of internet gambling need to be made legal.

My guess is he means sites and players need legality (maybe just sites). He is chairman of a 'trade' association of IG businesses (IIRC) and would be an advocate for both sites and players. So add me to your ****** group if I'm not already there.

07-02-2009 , 02:10 PM

#31

levin_money

centurion

Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 130

Is there any way you guys could fix some of the glaring typos on the iMEGA site. I mean, you have the typo "Subsbcribe" in big letters in the middle of every page. Not that hard to fix. And where it says "CNN Bussiness" in the right column of the home page, you should maybe investigate spelling business correctly.

I'm not trying to be a nit, I just think this type of thing is really important in projecting credibility to the outside world.

07-02-2009 , 03:28 PM

#32

rakk

grinder

Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 600

Quote:

Originally Posted by levin_money

I noticed these also and yes, typos like this look really bad.

07-02-2009 , 04:49 PM

#33

Nick Rivers

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 4,726

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeapFrog

What makes you think he was talking about players? If a question can be interpreted in a ******ed way and a non-******ed way and you assume he meant the ******ed way, does that mean you think so little of him?

Until online poker can be both spread and played domestically in a regulated, yet unfettered, fashion, then it really isn't 100% legal, is it? I'm pretty sure that's what he was saying. He's saying that, within four years, you're going to see domestic online card rooms, and you're not going to see a bunch of bull**** UIGEA type laws making it a huge hassle to play poker online.

07-02-2009 , 05:23 PM

#34

LeapFrog

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 5,538

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick Rivers

I think that being a spokesperson, he needs to be very clear in his message. It needs to be ****** proof.

07-02-2009 , 08:58 PM

#35

joe@iMEGA

Chairman of iMEGA

Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 150

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeapFrog

Are you saying online poker is illegal?

A US-based online poker industry does not exist at this moment, due to the legal landscape. There will be one within four years.

Joe@iMEGA

07-02-2009 , 09:02 PM

#36

joe@iMEGA

Chairman of iMEGA

Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 150

Quote:

Originally Posted by levin_money

Is there any way you guys could fix some of the glaring typos on the iMEGA site.

I'm not trying to be a nit, I just think this type of thing is really important in projecting credibility to the outside world.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rakk

I noticed these also and yes, typos like this look really bad.

Thanks for catching those. You guys make great crowd-sourcing copy editors.

I went in through my admin account instead of the webmaster, so I hope in fixing the typos I didn't wreck something else!

Joe@iMEGA

07-02-2009 , 10:19 PM

#37

LeapFrog

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 5,538

Quote:

Originally Posted by joe@iMEGA

A US-based online poker industry does not exist at this moment, due to the legal landscape. There will be one within four years.

Joe@iMEGA

your thoughts on federal laws w/ respect to the legality of playing online?

07-02-2009 , 10:46 PM

#38

joe@iMEGA

Chairman of iMEGA

Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 150

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeapFrog

your thoughts on federal laws w/ respect to the legality of playing online?

There is no Federal law against playing poker online for money. Period.

Joe@iMEGA

07-03-2009 , 01:09 PM

#39

permafrost

old hand

Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,968

Quote:

Originally Posted by joe@iMEGA

There is no Federal law against playing poker online for money. Period.

Joe@iMEGA

Then what triggers UIGEA to apply to poker (and/or IG), thereby leading to your complaint?

07-03-2009 , 04:27 PM

#40

LetsGambool

banned

Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 26,568

Quote:

Originally Posted by permafrost

Then what triggers UIGEA to apply to poker (and/or IG), thereby leading to your complaint?

Does the iMEGA complaint specifically reference poker? My understanding was it didnt.

07-04-2009 , 02:26 PM

#41

crazyfool1985

¯\_(°_o)_/¯

Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 5,213

bump lol jk

Im not from USA but i support this.

07-04-2009 , 03:55 PM

#42

TruePoker ex-CEO

veteran

Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 2,802

Quote:

Originally Posted by joe@iMEGA

....

Online poker will be expressly legal within the next four years. Bank it offshore in the meantime....

But poker doesn't need to be saved. It's part of our national character and lexicon. Just keep playing.

Joe@iMEGA

FYP

07-06-2009 , 06:04 AM

#43

Gullanian

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 14,014

If online poker is 100% going to be back in 4 years lets all put longs on PartyGaming plc etc?

07-06-2009 , 08:50 AM

#44

BullGator

journeyman

Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 238

I would think if the case goes well this week Online poker will be back in the US a lot sooner than 4 years. A lot sooner.

07-14-2009 , 04:12 AM

#45

npknhldr

grinder

Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 583

Quote:

Originally Posted by CounterClckWise

Re: Pokercast Episode 79 - WSOP Main Event, John Pappas & Mason Malmuth
Great show, guys. Food for thought about UB -- I agree that I would never play there or support their company in any way.
The interview with John Pappas really opened my eyes to the PPA's agenda. Their focus is on getting the existing online sites legalized and regulated because that's what would help the owners monetize their businesses. He just brushed aside your questions about privacy concerns and regulatory burdens with a snide swipe at tax cheats. Essentially, they are in the tank for poker business owners rather than the players. A regulatory regime would do nothing for players, but would only benefit the takeover of the new industry by large established gaming companies. At most, the PPA should be advocating a SELF-regulatory body like the NASD so that consumers can choose which standards are important to them rather than having them imposed by slavering packs of rent-seeking lawyers and lobbyists.

Also I think it sets a very bad precedent for online poker sites to be the first ones that cave to a regulatory regime. All of the good that has come from the Internet -- including everything outside of poker -- has happened in an environment without government control. Allowing this unprecedented takeover to happen in our names is something I can't just ignore.

If it's really a player organization, the PPA should be working on PLAYER issues not issues primary of concern to rich gaming Web site owners. We need less interference in our banking transactions -- not more.

(^^^^^^^Quoted from Pokercast forum)

I would generally agree with those sentiments, but at this juncture in online poker, I would think there are more points of intersecting interests between players/sites than opposing interests w.r.t US gov't policy.

Would be interesting to hear a more generalized internet rights argument as well.

07-17-2009 , 03:04 PM

#46

Nick Rivers

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 4,726

Quote:

Originally Posted by CounterClckWise

If it's really a player organization, the PPA should be working on PLAYER issues not issues primary of concern to rich gaming Web site owners. We need less interference in our banking transactions -- not more.

Quote:

Originally Posted by npknhldr

I would generally agree with those sentiments, but at this juncture in online poker, I would think there are more points of intersecting interests between players/sites than opposing interests w.r.t US gov't policy.

Who do you think is funding PPA? It's not me and you; it's people like Chris Ferguson.

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