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10-01-2011 , 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by 3betu
How long is the average wait to get verified ? sent forms in yesterday afternoon.
"Live Chat Online" in the top right corner.

Took me less than 30 minutes and I screwed up several times.
10-01-2011 , 03:11 AM
Just signed up on RPM and noticed transfers are disabled. Are they only enabled once you send in verification?
10-01-2011 , 05:04 AM
^^ Yes
10-01-2011 , 02:30 PM
Anyone here actually use the VIP system instead of a 35% rakeback deal? I can't really think of any reason to switch from RB to VIP unless you were at A or K gear and not raking over 6k a month. Am I missing something?
10-01-2011 , 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Klankster
Anyone here actually use the VIP system instead of a 35% rakeback deal? I can't really think of any reason to switch from RB to VIP unless you were at A or K gear and not raking over 6k a month. Am I missing something?
No I don't think your missing much. From what I think(but could be wrong) is that at the top tier you would get 45% rakeback using all your points. Not that great considering you could rarely play and have 41.5% with the 35% deal.(35% +6.5%)
10-01-2011 , 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by paul rizzo
No I don't think your missing much. From what I think(but could be wrong) is that at the top tier you would get 45% rakeback using all your points. Not that great considering you could rarely play and have 41.5% with the 35% deal.(35% +6.5%)
This is what I figured, but where do you get the 6.5% rb figure from exactly? Also, is there anywhere to spend VIP points besides the 3x monthly cash exchanges? So could I as a player with a rakeback deal use my points for anything?

And yes, it looks like you can get 45% rb if you are in A gear, but only for the first $6000 you're raked. Any more rake you generate you will get less rakeback on as you will have to purchase the cash exchanges from previous gears. So say you are A gear and generate $10500 in rake this month. You will generate 105000 VIP points, and purchase the 6 monthly exchanges in the A and K gears, totalling $4500 back. 4500/10500= ~43%.

So under the current system players putting in that much volume (if anyone even plays this much on RPM) start getting less rakeback the more they rake apparently.
10-01-2011 , 07:23 PM
rb players get 6.5 pts per $1 rake...pts are worth a cent each based on pretty much all tourneys except a select few.
10-01-2011 , 09:47 PM
Where can I find tourneys that I can buy into with VIP pts?

Also, since I am a rb player, does this mean I clear bonuses slower than non rb players? I remember reading on RPM's site that $1 rake = 10 pts.
10-01-2011 , 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Klankster
Where can I find tourneys that I can buy into with VIP pts?

Also, since I am a rb player, does this mean I clear bonuses slower than non rb players? I remember reading on RPM's site that $1 rake = 10 pts.
RB players earn bonuses 35% slower. For a RB player running a bonus it's effectively 8.5% RB or something like that.

for a non RB players $1 rake would = 10 points. But a RB player is again 35% less. So 1$ rake = 6.5 points

EDIT: just saw teflondawg explained the second part of your Q already.


Also it's(points) 6.5% RB because for every 100 cents(or 1$) we rake we get 6.5 points or equal to 6.5 cents back. So 6.5 of 100 is 6.5% RB

The best way of spending points is using them as rebuys or addons in MTTs. This way you get your full penny for each point and your RB is getting 'dinged'

Last edited by paul rizzo; 10-01-2011 at 10:50 PM.
10-01-2011 , 10:56 PM
Thanks for the explanation. I play 100% cash games so points seem pretty useless for me until I get into A gear and switch over to the VIP system and buy the cash rewards. Oh well.
10-02-2011 , 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Klankster
Thanks for the explanation. I play 100% cash games so points seem pretty useless for me until I get into A gear and switch over to the VIP system and buy the cash rewards. Oh well.
Need to learn to play tourneys since even if you convert, you lose your VIP points. You'll keep your level, but not the points.
10-03-2011 , 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Klankster
Thanks for the explanation. I play 100% cash games so points seem pretty useless for me until I get into A gear and switch over to the VIP system and buy the cash rewards. Oh well.
As a cash player, use the points to play the deepstack tournies - the play is really terrible, and you'll have an edge in the early stages because you're used to cash play w 150-200bbs, rather than 75-100bbs in the normal tournies.
10-03-2011 , 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by NimhOfJoy
As a cash player, use the points to play the deepstack tournies - the play is really terrible, and you'll have an edge in the early stages because you're used to cash play w 150-200bbs, rather than 75-100bbs in the normal tournies.
What buy-in's.....any in particular?
10-03-2011 , 01:30 PM
I play the $11, though I'm sure the 16.50 and 22 are fine for point plays (these are the guaranteed tournaments, I don't really know how to play a rebuy/addon though). I'm over $1 > 100 points through 4 months though lots of variance here. I suck at tourney play and no limit play as I really play limit cash. However, these points are worth gold really, I can't see any reason to change status, Maybe at King level, as you get 10-1 but that is way off in the future for me.

Plus tourneys are a nice break from the cash table grind.
10-03-2011 , 11:20 PM
I played a $.50 rebuy satellite to the $100K yesterday. The prize pool was large enough for 2 $109 tickets up top, but there was enough left over for 7 $11 tickets and $9 cash. When I registered for the tournament, the only prize that was guaranteed was 1 $109 ticket. I did ok, but didn't quite make it to second place, busting in 4th for an $11 Satellite ticket.

At first I was happy, because even though it wasn't the $109, it was a profit as I was only in for about 5 units, and I'm not normally rolled for $11 tourneys, so it would still be taking a shot for me to play in one.

Then reality hit, it's a satellite ticket, and can only be used to play another satellite. Ok, fine, I find a freezeout satellite and have another shot at the 100K. But no, every $11 satellite on Merge is a rebuy. Note above where I said I'm not normally rolled for $11 tourneys. I do play rebuys, mostly $.50 and $1 tourneys, and I would never enter one if I only had enough for the original buyin. So now I've spent $2.60 or so, and a couple of hours of my time to be "awarded" with a ticket that would cost me at least $20 more to use properly.

I PM'd RPMSeth about this, and got a one line response that the ticket cannot be converted to cash, although I never asked it to be converted to cash. So I contacted him on Skype, to try to better explain what was wrong with this situation.

This got me nowhere as Seth just told me it was against policy to convert a ticket as it somehow costs the poker room money to do so, and "i'd urge you to be more careful of the tournaments you enter if you would rather not receive one of the prizes offered." This part really irked me, as when I entered the satellite, it was for a ticket to a FREEZEOUT, not a rebuy, and the only thing in the prize pool at the time was 1 $109 ticket. But it's my fault I entered a satellite to a freezeout tourney and won a ticket that's only good on rebuys.

I've been a fan of RPM since I signed up with them several months ago, and I've always talked them up to my friends and aquantainces, even signing up players as an affiliate, but the attitude I've gotten from Seth is really damaging the way I feel about this company. There aren't alot of choices for US players, but there are choices. It's getting harder for me to recommend anyone choose RPM when apparently customers no longer matter and policy is an excuse for inaction rather than a means for doing the right thing.

This policy needs to be changed. If tickets are going to be awarded that aren't announced in the tournament description, then they should at least be usable for any tournament of that buyin. The simpler change would be to stop awarding tickets that aren't the ticket people are playing for. Just pay out the extra in cash.
10-04-2011 , 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Rook1969
I played a $.50 rebuy satellite to the $100K yesterday. The prize pool was large enough for 2 $109 tickets up top, but there was enough left over for 7 $11 tickets and $9 cash. When I registered for the tournament, the only prize that was guaranteed was 1 $109 ticket. I did ok, but didn't quite make it to second place, busting in 4th for an $11 Satellite ticket.

At first I was happy, because even though it wasn't the $109, it was a profit as I was only in for about 5 units, and I'm not normally rolled for $11 tourneys, so it would still be taking a shot for me to play in one.

Then reality hit, it's a satellite ticket, and can only be used to play another satellite. Ok, fine, I find a freezeout satellite and have another shot at the 100K. But no, every $11 satellite on Merge is a rebuy. Note above where I said I'm not normally rolled for $11 tourneys. I do play rebuys, mostly $.50 and $1 tourneys, and I would never enter one if I only had enough for the original buyin. So now I've spent $2.60 or so, and a couple of hours of my time to be "awarded" with a ticket that would cost me at least $20 more to use properly.

I PM'd RPMSeth about this, and got a one line response that the ticket cannot be converted to cash, although I never asked it to be converted to cash. So I contacted him on Skype, to try to better explain what was wrong with this situation.

This got me nowhere as Seth just told me it was against policy to convert a ticket as it somehow costs the poker room money to do so, and "i'd urge you to be more careful of the tournaments you enter if you would rather not receive one of the prizes offered." This part really irked me, as when I entered the satellite, it was for a ticket to a FREEZEOUT, not a rebuy, and the only thing in the prize pool at the time was 1 $109 ticket. But it's my fault I entered a satellite to a freezeout tourney and won a ticket that's only good on rebuys.

I've been a fan of RPM since I signed up with them several months ago, and I've always talked them up to my friends and aquantainces, even signing up players as an affiliate, but the attitude I've gotten from Seth is really damaging the way I feel about this company. There aren't alot of choices for US players, but there are choices. It's getting harder for me to recommend anyone choose RPM when apparently customers no longer matter and policy is an excuse for inaction rather than a means for doing the right thing.

This policy needs to be changed. If tickets are going to be awarded that aren't announced in the tournament description, then they should at least be usable for any tournament of that buyin. The simpler change would be to stop awarding tickets that aren't the ticket people are playing for. Just pay out the extra in cash.
This same issue with converting tickets to cash / reclaiming a ticket to issue a new one after a satellite win has come up a few times. I believe I have explained the reason in this thread or another related thread previously, but I can't seem to find it, so I'll gladly explain once more.

The ticket issued through your satellite win was created by funds from tournament buy-ins from players across the network. In this particular satellite, when there are excess funds in the prize pool but not enough to create a new $109 ticket, each $11 extra is put towards issuing an $11 ticket in order to give those that came closer to winning an extra chance to qualify for the $100k Guaranteed; a consolation prize. In the instance that there are extra funds that do not add up to $11, that prize is paid as cash, as occurred here with the $9.

In order for RPM to exchange the ticket for cash or for another ticket, the ticket must be expired from your account. The expiration of this ticket does not mean RPM reclaims $11 to reissue you in a different form; it just prevents the ticket from being used. Issuing cash or a new ticket costs RPM Poker the price of the ticket. This goes for a ticket of any size, whether $2 or $215. As a matter of policy, RPM does not exchange tickets for cash or new tickets, and the prizes in this tournament were given as they were intended to be.

While I understand that this may not have been the answer you were hoping to hear, the $11 satellite ticket you've won can be used properly to buy in to any satellite tournament with an $11 buy-in, and can certainly be used to take another shot into qualifying for the $100k Guaranteed.
10-04-2011 , 08:46 AM
So you won a prize that wasn't in the initial prize pool? Would you rather not have won it? Just play a rebuy tourney like it was a freezeout. Better roi that way anyways.
10-04-2011 , 08:51 AM
Also, there's a daily High Roller Sat that runs @ 17:45 server time that's not a rebuy.
10-06-2011 , 04:00 PM
I verified my account several weeks back and requested a withdrawal. I have been patiently waiting then today I get an email that there is a small note that I need to be aware of, that I need to send in a utility bill coorelated to my address.

Il just copy paste my response to them, because Il probably get a reply quicker here from others that have gone through this process. So here is my response.

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Why wasn't I told of this before? I don't think this is a small note as I am waiting on cashout now. I was told that I was ready to go after completing the verification form. Why isn't this part of the verification form?

I don't understand, does the utility bill have to have my name on it? I don't have any utilitly bills in my name.
Maybe you guys can answer some of my questions, and I really hope you don't need a utility bill in your name to be able to withdrawal your money from this site.
10-06-2011 , 10:42 PM
^Solved

Il just send them a bank account statement.
10-06-2011 , 10:49 PM
Requiring a utility bill/bank statement is pretty standard.
10-07-2011 , 02:02 AM
^^ actually not solved because they are asking for a bank statement that verifies my address on their record. I have my physical address on record because they send their checks through UPS or Fed Ex and not USPS. Any other small mail I would ever recieve, like a bank statement or bill would go to my PO box and not my physical address.

There must be other players who use PO boxes as their way of collecting mail. So how would you send in a bill or statement proving your physical address?
10-07-2011 , 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by paul rizzo
^^ actually not solved because they are asking for a bank statement that verifies my address on their record. I have my physical address on record because they send their checks through UPS or Fed Ex and not USPS. Any other small mail I would ever recieve, like a bank statement or bill would go to my PO box and not my physical address.

There must be other players who use PO boxes as their way of collecting mail. So how would you send in a bill or statement proving your physical address?
Support should be able to clear this up.

Which address is listed on your ID?

Have you asked support if there is anything else you can confirm?
10-07-2011 , 10:31 PM
^ Yeah I talked to them. They said that they were going to just send me a check via USPS even though they usually don't do it that way. So Il be able to get them a statement with my PO box on it.
10-12-2011 , 02:58 PM

      
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