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Accounts closed across the merge network - no explanation given  *xpost* Accounts closed across the merge network - no explanation given  *xpost*

12-04-2011 , 12:55 AM
Hello, I am posting this thread here to inform other players on the merge network and hopefully get some answers for myself.

Last night I created an account on Black Chip Poker and made a deposit of $100

Today I received these emails from Carbon Poker and RPM Poker

RPM POKER

After a routine review to your account information we noticed the physical address you provided us and the IP address your computer registered in our system do not match.

For this reason we would like you to let us know what the reason is for this discrepancy.

Thank you;

Stephanie
RPM Poker Security

Should you require further assistance or information, please don't hesitate to contact us. Your reference ID for this email is *EDITED OUT*; please quote this number in any further communication on this subject.

CARBON POKER

After a routine review to your account information we noticed that there is a mismatch between the physical address you provided us and the IP address your computer registered in our system.

Therefore, we would like to know the reason for this discrepancy.

As a security precaution, (if you fail to respond in the next 24 to 48 hours) your account might be restricted pending your reply.

Best regards,

Security Team
Merge Gaming Network

Should you require further assistance or information, please don't hesitate to contact us. Your reference ID for this email is *EDITED OUT*; please quote this number in any further communication on this subject.



I sent these emails explaining the IP differences
"Hi, I spoke with RPMJon over live chat and informed him that I was using a Canadian VPN previously, he informed me this could create some problems for security to which I told him that I would stop using it, he said it would no problem if I stopped using it and I have stopped using it and will no longer use it. Thanks!"

to which I received this response from Carbon and RPM

Thank you for contacting us.

Our management team have reviewed your account and have deemed that it will remain inactive. If you open any new accounts they will also be closed.

As per our house rules, management reserves the right to revoke the agreement between the user and our site.

Management decision is final and no further correspondence will be entertained on this matter.
Please accept our apologies for any inconvenience this matter may have caused you. Your co-operation is greatly appreciated.

Best regards,

Esteban
Security Team
Merge Gaming Network


At this point I have not received responses from Hero Poker or Black Chip Poker but my accounts are locked there as well.


Live chat log with RPM live support to hopefully get some answers
Spoiler:
Chat Content:
RPMJon: [13:40] Welcome to RPM Poker VIP Chat Support. How can I help you today?
me: [13:40] hello I have an issue can you help me
RPMJon: [13:41] Hey there
me: [13:42] hi, i contacted you about a week or 2 ago stating that i was using a vpn for security reasons and found out it was against the terms, i was informed (by you i believe) that if i stopped using it there would be no problem
[13:42] i stopped using it but today i got this emails
[13:42] After a routine review to your account information we noticed the physical address you provided us and the IP address your computer registered in our system do not match.
RPMJon: [13:43] What is your username?
me: [13:43] Shenron
[13:43] I immediately stopped using it once I spoke with you and found out it could create problems
[13:43] I responded to that email stating that I spoke with you over live support and just received this
[13:43] Thank you for contacting us.

Our management team have reviewed your account and have deemed that it will remain inactive. If you open any new accounts they will also be closed.

As per our house rules, management reserves the right to revoke the agreement between the user and our site.

Management decision is final and no further correspondence will be entertained on this matter.
Please accept our apologies for any inconvenience this matter may have caused you. Your co-operation is greatly appreciated.

Best regards,

Esteban
RPMJon: [13:43] Unfortunately your account will remain banned. I apologize for the inconvenience.
me: [13:44] what is the reason?
RPMJon: [13:44] I am unable to discuss that with you. Sorry about that.
me: [13:44] why is that? why am i unable to know why my account is closed
RPMJon: [13:45] Your account has been closed by Merge Security. That is all I am able to say.
me: [13:45] i do not have any funds on RPM but i have money on another skin, how am i going to be able to get that?
RPMJon: [13:46] You will need to contact that skin directly. Your accounts across the network will remain banned.
me: [13:46] is there anyway i can find out what the reason is? this is quite ridiculous that im banned just because you say so
RPMJon: [13:47] You can certainly respond to the email from security, however because of Merge protocol we are unable to discuss that directly.
me: [13:48] the email states "no further correspondence will be entertained on this matter."
RPMJon: [13:48] In that case they will be unable to provide you with the reason either.
me: [13:49] this is completely ridiculous, i have done nothing wrong. and youre telling me that theres no way i can find out what the **** i am being banned for?
[13:50] i have been playing on the merge network for months without issue and all of a sudden i get banned for no reason?
[13:50] or i should say a reason that is not available to me..
[13:52] i'll be posting this on twoplustwo to inform the community and hopefully get some answers.
RPMJon: [13:53] You can certainly do that if you would like. However, you have been banned by Merge Security for a violation of the terms and conditions and this will be the information presented to you if you decide to post on 2+2.
me: [13:54] i am assuming that it is due to the vpn, why was it that you informed me that if i stopped using the vpn (which i did as soon as i spoke with you) there would be no issue?
RPMJon: [13:54] It has nothing to do with your VPN. If that were the case I would have mentioned that right away.
me: [13:55] ok if thats the case why was the subject of the first email i received a question of my IP?
RPMJon: [13:56] That was the initial reason for the security check but a further investigation revealed that your account needed to remain banned.
me: [13:57] okay, ill be posting to hopefully get the reason why i was banned. thanks
RPMJon: [13:58] Was there anything else I could help you with today?
me: [13:58] no, thanks for giving the information you could
RPMJon: [13:58] Take care.




My accounts that are closed

Hero Poker - 5krillex
RPM - Shenron
Carbon - Porunga
Black Chip - Buroli

Once I receive emails from Hero and BCP I will also be posting them ITT, I have only received emails from RPM and Carbon, my Hero and BCP accounts were closed without the questioning emails that RPM and Carbon gave (asking about the IP address)

To clarify I have not used a VPN on RPM or Carbon in about 2-3 weeks (since I was informed that it was against the sites TOS, I was not using it to get around the terms - I am from a state that is allowed to create an account and play on the merge network) I have never used a VPN on BCP or Hero. RPMJon has told me that it has nothing to do with the VPN but I feel this is relevant information.
12-04-2011 , 09:21 AM
what you need here is the chat session you had with Jon where he says its ok and all, and then u stop and then u should be fine right? btw this will prob get deleted, and u should go to internet poker about this
12-04-2011 , 10:14 AM
I've posted this in IP and also the merge sub-forums

I don't have the chat with Jon as it was nearly a month ago and I obv didn't expect anything like this to happen since I was told it wouldn't be a problem. In my latest chat with Jon (log posted ITT) he says this has nothing to do with the VPN.
12-04-2011 , 03:59 PM
he said it wasnt a VPN clearly in that sentence he wrote to you, so the convo you hd a month ago doesnt matter. They probably think you share your account or something if its being logged in from different places, so they refuse your business... email management and see what they say.. they should give an explanation
12-04-2011 , 04:33 PM
Your accounts on all Merge brands were closed by the Merge Gaming Fraud and Security team. Your accounts were not closed by Merge Gaming for your use of a VPN. Your RPM Poker account was closed as the result of a Merge Network investigation into your related accounts with all Merge Gaming brands. RPM Poker is not able to offer you further support in this matter.

Decisions by the Merge Gaming management team to permanently close accounts are not made arbitrarily. These management decisions are final and not in RPM Poker's control. You can direct any correspondence regarding this matter directly to the Merge Gaming Fraud and Security team. If you have funds and/or outstanding issues with your accounts on other Merge Gaming brands, we would recommend contacting them directly.

      
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