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03-12-2009 , 10:36 PM
http://www.thechessdrum.net/chessaca...lindfold1.html

Test your visualization ability.

I scored 17/20, missing 3, 15, and 20.

Spoiler:
For 3 I said Qa4+, forgetting to play Bxf6 first; for 15 I thought ...Qxh2 was mate because for some reason I thought White had castled and just blundered horribly with g3; for 20 I almost had the right idea but played 1. ...c2 intending 2. Nd2 Rxa2; d'oh!
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03-12-2009 , 10:37 PM
Grunch: I do
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03-12-2009 , 10:39 PM
What does grunch mean? I sort of understand from context but I'm not sure...
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03-12-2009 , 10:53 PM
It means posting without reading any of the responses, it's a sign that you're only responding to the OP. Though in this specific case I was using it tongue-in-cheek as a way to indicate I was only responding to the title and ignoring the OP
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03-12-2009 , 10:56 PM
Oh god, 12/20
I could play an entire game blindfolded in high school but I can do nothing of the sort now
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03-12-2009 , 11:29 PM
18/20 , missed 3 and 4

Spoiler:
Put h3 in number 3, thinking that wherever will black move the bishop to play g4, and when it moves to g6 take on e6 followed by Qb3. In number 4 I totally messed up and put Qb3 instead of Qd5. It also took me literally forever to figure out number 15, I was looking for all sorts of tactics like Qxh3 and etc., but nothing seemed to work, and then after struggling for like 5 mins the idea of Qf6 came in to my mind.


Great test, really made me think, I thought it will be easier It helped a lot that I've actually had some of the arising positions in my games or they have been shown to me by my coach, so I didn't even need to think bout those.
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03-13-2009 , 12:05 AM
17/20 felt like I should have got all 20....

Spoiler:
The ones i missed was the one with bxf6 I just played qa4 right away.... the one that is nxh7 I missed I said bxh meh i put it in fritz after its like .10 better lol stupid azz question.... and I missed the one that is qf6 played qxh3... ups bxh3 bxf2 kf1 sigh i suck
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03-13-2009 , 01:00 AM
Missed 15 and 16. Got the rest.

Spoiler:
I saw Qf6 in 15, but considered the reply f4, looked for sacrificial alternatives to Qf6 for a while longer, and eventually got frustrated and didn't put anything. In 16 I tried Bxd4??, which is an attempt at a fork trick that doesn't even work and dies horribly after Qxd4.

Last edited by DaMaGor; 03-13-2009 at 01:11 AM.
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03-13-2009 , 01:21 AM
14/20 and pretty disappointed though I did it pretty quickly. Amazing how so many people put Qa4 without the Bxf6 (self included)
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03-13-2009 , 05:20 AM
18/20, got number 9 wrong because Nxh7 and Bxh7 looked pretty equal to me (as they seem to be according to mc4chess). Somehow got 15 wrong even tho I saw that Qf6 was good :< Morally 19/20 because question 9 is silly

edit: used 18ish minutes total
edit2 heh i did the exact same error with 15 as mc4chess, somehow my brain put a knight on d2 when qxh3 would win a pawn
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03-13-2009 , 05:22 AM
We have over a hundred different positions here in this exact same fashion:

http://www.chessvideos.tv/blindfold-chess-quiz.php

Last edited by pokergrader; 03-13-2009 at 05:49 AM.
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03-13-2009 , 08:07 AM
15/20, thought I had 19/20 before hitting submit.

Spoiler:
made several common mistakes: Qa4+ before Bxf6 like everyone else it seems, also played Qxh3 fairly quickly in the one where it should be Qf6, and Bxh7 instead of Nx.

Then I wanted to play ...h5 in the Morra Gambit one even though I didn't think it was winning, not sure who is better there but it's obv not as good as ...Nd4.

For the ...f5 one I saw it pretty much instantly then stupidly put something else.
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03-13-2009 , 12:32 PM
Spoiler:
The ...f5 one took me forever because after Qe3 I kept thinking g2 was still defended by the bishop.
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03-13-2009 , 01:10 PM
I don't think this test was really a good one to evaluate visualization: it's
basically one-, two- and three-move tactics. It was very disappointing to
score 18/20 with some basic oversights (didn't double check).
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03-13-2009 , 01:21 PM
18/20

Spoiler:

#15 thought I could play Nxh2 (gxh4 Nf3#), but there are many defenses.
#17 thought Qh2 immediately was mate.
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03-13-2009 , 10:26 PM
So far I've done 10 problems with 7 right. I started off too fast, going 2/5 on the first 5, but I've got the last 5 right. Since I just started playing about a month ago I'm super slow at this, but I'm finding them really fun because I can feel improvement just from doing these 10 problems! But it's still taking me 5-10 minutes per problem, with a couple of them taking more than 15-20, so instead of doing them all at once I'm doing 5 per day.

Thanks for the link, these are fun. After I'm finished, I'm going to check out the chessvideos.tv blindfold puzzles too.
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03-13-2009 , 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by bigpooch
I don't think this test was really a good one to evaluate visualization: it's
basically one-, two- and three-move tactics. It was very disappointing to
score 18/20 with some basic oversights (didn't double check).

Hm.. Did you do it blindfolded?
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03-14-2009 , 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by YouKnowWho
Hm.. Did you do it blindfolded?
I don't even have a physical set and board here. More challenging would
have been to include MUCH longer game scores (twenty to forty moves
long) and maybe some combinations that are much deeper.
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03-14-2009 , 02:23 PM
bigpoch,

Obviously longer scores would have been more challenging. But since you missed 2/20 (10%), I think that these scores were challenging enough for you.
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03-14-2009 , 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by bigpooch
I don't even have a physical set and board here. More challenging would have been to include MUCH longer game scores (twenty to forty moves long) and maybe some combinations that are much deeper.
Here's a longer one for you, then. The Amber 2009 rapid/blindfolded tournament started today, here are the first fifteen moves of Carlsen-Kamsky:

1. d4 d5 2. c4 c6 3. Nf3 Nf6 4. Nc3 a6 5. c5 g6 6. Bf4 Bg7 7. h3 O-O 8. e3 Bf5 9. Nd2 Nb8d7 10. g4 Be6 11. b4 a5 12. b5 Ne4 13. Nxe4 dxe4 14. Rc1 a4 15. Be2 Bb3??

Who needs a board? Gata Kamsky. White to move and win.
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03-14-2009 , 03:51 PM
bigpooch is obv world champion and can play through 50+ moves in his head then solve a tactic problem like its no big deal OBV
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03-14-2009 , 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by BobJoeJim
Here's a longer one for you, then. The Amber 2009 rapid/blindfolded tournament started today, here are the first fifteen moves of Carlsen-Kamsky:

1. d4 d5 2. c4 c6 3. Nf3 Nf6 4. Nc3 a6 5. c5 g6 6. Bf4 Bg7 7. h3 O-O 8. e3 Bf5 9. Nd2 Nb8d7 10. g4 Be6 11. b4 a5 12. b5 Ne4 13. Nxe4 dxe4 14. Rc1 a4 15. Be2 Bb3??

Who needs a board? Gata Kamsky. White to move and win.
What's the trick on axb3? ( White's 13th should read Ndxe4, otherwise, his
a-pawn hangs on Rc1. )

Looking forward to playing through some of the Amber games (already looked
at Leko's win over Anand).
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03-15-2009 , 12:27 AM
zzz 19/20 nxh7 question was rigged obv
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03-15-2009 , 10:43 AM
did this real quickly, i feel like on a bunch of them i solved them even before i could "see" the position just cause the idea was obvious if that makes sense

18/20

[spoiler] on 5 i just played b6 quickly and moved on, and missed 15 for some reason i thought qxh2 was checkmate????? ill chalk it up to being hungover [/spoiler]
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03-15-2009 , 04:09 PM
KingDan,

Yes, that makes sense. In fact, I'm almost positive that this "ability" to see the "idea" before one can see the position is why so many of us played Qa4+ instead of Bxf6 in the one miniature. We all "saw" that the fourth rank was clear and the a4-e8 diagonal was open, and our brains were primed for simple tactics, so we "knew" that Qa4+ was the move.
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