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11-24-2009 , 05:30 PM
Can you spot it?



Bonus points if you see the line afterwards

Hint 1:
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involves a spectacular sac

Hint 2:
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This move is followed by a forced mate in 6
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11-24-2009 , 05:46 PM
Fairly basic I think, but still beautiful.
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11-24-2009 , 06:49 PM
I've seen this before and was able to solve it.
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11-24-2009 , 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Dynasty
I've seen this before and was able to solve it.
Ditto.

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Nf7#!!
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11-24-2009 , 07:31 PM
let me guess

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does it involve Qxe4 followed by smothered mate hilarity?
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11-24-2009 , 08:07 PM
I saw what I think is the main line fairly quickly but am wondering what happens after

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1...Bxf1 or indeed any other neutral move, obviously Black is losing material but he can struggle on afaics
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11-24-2009 , 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by RoundTower
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1...Bxf1 or indeed any other neutral move, obviously Black is losing material but he can struggle on afaics
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Yeah, you're right. Just 2. Rxf1 and white's up material.
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11-24-2009 , 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by swingdoc
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Yeah, you're right. Just 2. Rxf1 and white's up material.
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2. Nxf5 imo
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11-24-2009 , 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by swingdoc
Ditto.

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Nf7#!!
This is the end result, but you haven't posted the line

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Originally Posted by sixfour
let me guess

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does it involve Qxe4 followed by smothered mate hilarity?
yes but the ending is way better than you think

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Originally Posted by RoundTower
I saw what I think is the main line fairly quickly but am wondering what happens after

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1...Bxf1 or indeed any other neutral move, obviously Black is losing material but he can struggle on afaics
no


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Originally Posted by DaMaGor
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2. Nxf5 imo
good move but no
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11-24-2009 , 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by DaMaGor
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2. Nxf5 imo
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2. Nxf5 Bxg2 3. Kxg2 Nf6 is pretty equal imo.
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11-25-2009 , 12:41 AM
I'll wait for dire to post before I put up the actual line. it is a beauty.
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11-25-2009 , 01:08 AM
I mean are you serious hoya? I am pretty sure that everyone who has posted in this thread know the actual line, you don't need to try to make it look harder than it is.
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11-25-2009 , 01:32 AM
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11-25-2009 , 01:58 AM
Don't get me wrong, it is very beautiful just not as hard as you are trying to present it
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11-25-2009 , 03:01 AM
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Most people should be able to see the line leading to Nf7# by now, but not sure anyone has a forced mate after a move other than accepting the sac?
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11-25-2009 , 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by RoundTower
I saw what I think is the main line fairly quickly but am wondering what happens after

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1...Bxf1 or indeed any other neutral move, obviously Black is losing material but he can struggle on afaics
Is White that much better after 2. Rxf1 Ne7 3. Qb1 c4 ( I haven't checked anything with a "bot" ) ?
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11-25-2009 , 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by bigpooch
Is White that much better after 2. Rxf1 Ne7 3. Qb1 c4 ( I haven't checked anything with a "bot" ) ?
why Qb1 and not Qc4?
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11-25-2009 , 02:14 PM
no forced mate here unless you accept the sac.

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Bxf1 Rxf1 is +- and blacks best chance
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11-25-2009 , 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by YouKnowWho
why Qb1 and not Qc4?
Okay, looks close to +/- or +- upon further inspection.
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11-27-2009 , 12:48 PM
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1. Qxe4 fxe4 2. Bxe4+ Kh8 3. Ng6+ Kh7 4. Nxf8+ Kh8 5. Ng6+ Kh7 6. Ne5+ Kh8 7. Nf7#


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But this is under the assumption black just wants to roll over and die? Bxf1 instead of taking the queen?
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11-27-2009 , 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by airwave16
no forced mate here unless you accept the sac.

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Bxf1 Rxf1 is +- and blacks best chance
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1. Qxe4 Bxf1 2. Rxf1 Bxb2 followed by 3...Qxa2 ? Is there a forced mate for White after 3. Nxf5 ?

EDIT: OK ldo 2. Rxf1 Ne7 THEN 3...Bxb2?


Be nice, total patz-donk here, and rusty as an old saw too.
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11-28-2009 , 01:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Bill Murphy
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1. Qxe4 Bxf1 2. Rxf1 Bxb2 followed by 3...Qxa2 ? Is there a forced mate for White after 3. Nxf5 ?

EDIT: OK ldo 2. Rxf1 Ne7 THEN 3...Bxb2?


Be nice, total patz-donk here, and rusty as an old saw too.
b2 is protected by a knight on d1 a2 is hanging though, so after 2.. Ne7 white has to play Qb1 or Qc4.
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11-29-2009 , 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by YouKnowWho
b2 is protected by a knight on d1 a2 is hanging though, so after 2.. Ne7 white has to play Qb1 or Qc4.
lol, I was thinking that Black would be happy to swap his dark Bishop for the a & b pawns plus his Queen on the 2nd rank, but neglected to give White his 3rd move in that line...
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