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12-15-2013 , 07:11 AM

tcmNOWAY

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After Black plays 20. ...Kg6, I can't tell if I should just take the rook and threaten the pawn on g7, or if I should attempt checkmate right away by playing Qg7+. I can't see a line that guarantees me a checkmate from here, but at the same time, Black's rook does not look all that tempting to take because my Queen abandons many of White's vulnerable pieces by being isolated in the corner. I can't think of a good variation that works without Black blundering anymore than they already have. Help, anyone?

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12-15-2013 , 08:47 AM

lkasigh

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I would play Qg3 without even thinking. Black has to reply Qg4 and you trade the Queens and win. Qxh8 also wins, but you have to calculate the consequences of a series of checks and it's possible to miss something. When you have a simple win there's no reason to complicate it (in reality Qxh8 is also quite simple to calculate, but it's a good general principle not to go for unnecessary complications in a winning position).

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12-15-2013 , 08:56 AM

Rei Ayanami

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Take the rook. Easy win!

(No, but really, just save the cognitive energy and simplify into a queenless, perpetual scare–free ending.)

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12-15-2013 , 11:47 AM

EvilSteve

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Originally Posted by lkasigh

I would play Qg3 without even thinking. Black has to reply Qg4 and you trade the Queens and win.

Instead Bg4 and things are not so simple.

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12-15-2013 , 01:15 PM

rooooktaker

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18. Bxc5 game over

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12-15-2013 , 01:53 PM

EvilSteve

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Going through the earlier moves, 14 c4 is puzzling. Why not take the pawn?

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12-15-2013 , 02:21 PM

lkasigh

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Originally Posted by EvilSteve

Instead Bg4 and things are not so simple.

If Bg4 just f3.

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12-15-2013 , 02:22 PM

EvilSteve

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Originally Posted by lkasigh

If Bg4 just f3.

Qb1+

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12-15-2013 , 02:46 PM

mangler241

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Originally Posted by EvilSteve

Qb1+

Kf2 and then if ...Qxh1, Qxg4+ mates

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12-15-2013 , 02:49 PM

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mangler241

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Originally Posted by rooooktaker

18. Bxc5 game over

looks like an easy clean win

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12-15-2013 , 03:24 PM

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EvilSteve

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Originally Posted by mangler241

Kf2 and then if ...Qxh1, Qxg4+ mates

Technically not mate but yeah, it's on the way and with the king on f2 black's queen has no checks. Qg3 does the job after all.

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12-17-2013 , 07:56 PM

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Paymenoworlater

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Not sure what the problem is but it should be fairy easy to see that white can win with about any move. Taking the rook seems simplest to me, even if Houdini thinks 1.Qg3+ Kf5 2.Qxgy or 1-Bg4 2.f3 is stronger.

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