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05-06-2015 , 01:55 PM

TexAg06

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As white, I've been seeing a lot more of the Triangle stuff lately, probably the past 3-6 months or so (anyone else seeing this more too?). If it gets played from the Slav order, 1. d4 d5 2. c4 c6 3. Nf3 e6, I play 4. Qc2 to avoid an early e3. But what do y'all play if it arises from the QGD move order, 1. d4 d5 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 e6? If 4. Nf3, then we could get into the Noteboom, which I am not really wanting to study. But if 4. e3, black can switch to a Stonewall with 4...f5 which is annoying to play against. Is it worth learning the 4. e4 dxe4 5. Nxe4 Bb4+ 6. Bd2 Qxd4 7. Bxb4?

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

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05-06-2015 , 02:16 PM

wlrs

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4.e4 dxe4 5.Nxe4 Bb4+ 6.Nc3 from Kaufman (very detailed answer, I know)

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05-06-2015 , 05:50 PM

TexAg06

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Originally Posted by wlrs

4.e4 dxe4 5.Nxe4 Bb4+ 6.Nc3 from Kaufman (very detailed answer, I know)

Haha. That's perfect. wlrs + Kaufman = all I need

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05-06-2015 , 06:15 PM

ScottTK

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My advice is to play 3.Nc3 in the Slav.

That way, no matter the move order, you'll be unsure of what to do.

Then, by virtue of necessity, you'll figure something out.

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05-06-2015 , 06:22 PM

TexAg06

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Hahaha thanks Scott

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05-06-2015 , 06:31 PM

The Yugoslavian

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Gotta ask the expert, imo:

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05-06-2015 , 08:55 PM

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The original expert:

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05-06-2015 , 09:30 PM

valenzuela

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Wtf is the triangle?

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05-07-2015 , 02:17 AM

wlrs

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valenzuela:

Tex, another recommendation: The main line is better than the Marshall gambit imo, and it's well presented in

Spoiler:

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05-07-2015 , 08:12 AM

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TexAg06

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wlrs, this might be a dumb question, but what is considered the main line?

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05-07-2015 , 08:58 AM

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wlrs

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http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1718464 and 16.Bc2 instead of 16.f4

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05-07-2015 , 09:39 AM

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TexAg06

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Ah, I see, thanks.

Also, thanks for sending a game where black wins when I ask for help from the white side haha. Real confidence builder.

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07-28-2015 , 04:41 AM

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4.e4 is the marshall gambit and its very aggressive,
black will have to defend for some time,
the gambit is also sound not a speculative
gamble that black will go wrong

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