So yesterday ended an IRT i was playing for a while. I tied 1st place with villain (not a big deal tho, i was 3rd rank against an average of 1900-2000 villains).

The thing is, it happened something (apparently) for the first time: villain and I tied in every tiebreak (points-bucholz-mbuch-progresive). Our game was draw.

So there are 2 people in charge: the TD and the organizer.
TD was suggesting "player with black pieces". Organizer: "what the program says" (swiss manager i think). In that case, the program just puts on top the player with more ELO.
There where a couple more suggestions, like flip a coin (Im not kidding!), or
play games (1 or 2 blitz/lightning stuff....).

I would like opinions about correct procedure in this case.
I guess FIDE rules aplly for being an IRT.

What's an IRT?

Is there a problem with just declaring both of you winners? If prize money is involved, just split it.

I've never heard of higher ELO. Honestly, if a tournament is tied, even through tiebreaks and head-to-head, and there is no time to play a 2 game blitz-off or something, then the lower ELO should, imo, take whatever significant title there is (split prize money 50-50)

Not sure why you are so sarcastic about flipping the coin suggestion..

Apart from that, what Ajezz said.

Yeah, all other things being equal I think flipping a coin is a better answer than either "give it to whoever has a higher rating" or "give it to whoever has a lower rating". Or, you know, rock-paper-scissors

http://www.fide.com/component/handbo...article&id=127

a pretty unusual and crappy spot for the TD, awarding to the bigger ELO is just ridiculous though (and td is a pussy for letting the organizer run him over). Tiebreaker game, if impossible flip a coin would be my judgement. Obviously stating the tiebreak rules clearly beforehand would help but I can see not being prepared for this kind of cluster**** with all of them being tied

there's always some other suitable tiebreak you can use. Unless you really did get the exact same results against the exact same players. The organiser should have picked a sensible one and stuck with it (it's understandable that it wasn't specified in advance imo).

Blitz playoff + split the money is the standard for big Swiss tournaments here, and I definitely like it. Sometimes a playoff is required in all sections and the crowd gets to watch two 1200s, then two 1600s, then two 1900s, then two grandmasters battle it out on the big screen.

Is there anything wrong with just declaring you BOTH =1st?
Split the money, shake hands, make a speech if you must & go home ...

If you are playing for something else (a trophy, title, etc), then a playoff of some description should be the easiest way to sort it out ... time controls depending on the amount of time available, with longer time controls preferable ... though a 6v5 'Armageddon' game would be the best 'we need a winner quickly' solution. If there is literally almost no time, then toss a coin or rock/scissors/paper as suggested.

I know a guy who (in the early 80s I think) missed out on an IM title & Interzonal qualification because he picked the wrong envelope. Situation was a 3-way tie in a zonal & the tie-break method was drawing lots. If he picked the right one, he's off to the Interzonal & gains an automatic IM title ... he picked the wrong one & although reasonably successful, only ever achieved the FM title.

Robert Hübner lost the 1983 Candidates quarter final to Smyslov because they spun a roulette wheel to decide the winner...

IRT: International Rating Tournament
We split the money; the problem was different size trophys.

Really? At the moment I found it hilarious, but now, after looking at the replies i see that is not as crazy as i thought.

You are very accourate: TD a nice person,little push over guy, but usually very correct TD.
The thing is that usually there's the last tiebreak "player with black pieces wins", but he just missed to put it in the bases.

Same thing: TD's opinion was "black pieces wins" but he just forgot to specify.

Well, finally we agree to split the money and villain just gave up 1st place trophy (im not sure why thow: if because i played with black pieces or for some other reason).