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Old 05-19-2017, 08:12 AM   #1
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Improving in chess

Hey guys,

I am a complete fish @ chess, but i do have some spare time now (a few weeks) that i would like to invest in studying the game and improving as much as possible. Never did before.

What would you recommend? Are there any good materials on the interwebz?

Thanks
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Old 05-21-2017, 04:44 AM   #2
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Re: Improving in chess

Probably best to start studying the endgame, which is boring. Then study the openings, which is fun. Learn one opening against 1.e4 and one against 1.d4. And chose one opening as white. After that study tactics, mainly through puzzels. Play a lor and analyze your games afterwards with Fritz or whatever engine you prefer.
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Old 05-21-2017, 05:13 AM   #3
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Re: Improving in chess

repetition

and a few weeks probably won't do much...
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Old 05-23-2017, 03:01 AM   #4
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Re: Improving in chess

Basic opening strategy would do the trick, considering time limitations. Get some idea how to place your pieces.

Try to get two central pawns in the center (with black you more likely get just one). Play the knights out (nearer the center if possible), and the bishops (with black more likely you get one bishop out, then close its path with a pawn to get the other bishop out, and if not possible, you can place it in e.g. b7 or g7, after b6 or g6 pawn moves).

Castle (put the king to better safety), that gets one rook more central also. The queen you also can "develop" to the 2nd rank or so, so your rooks connect, and at least one of those rooks generally is put on the open vertical line or behind some center pawn.

You will also need one tactics book, learn some basic endgames, and later about middle game (but for now you will push some pawn(s) further there, and the knight is often going further also).

There should be some basic chess book(s) teaching basic stuffs. When I was a beginner, never having read anything, but a better player than my friend, he took a look (in a library) into one chess book and just saw how the pieces are places in the opening, and beat me.
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Old 05-28-2017, 06:14 PM   #5
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Re: Improving in chess

Thanks guys

Would you recommend any video series or books?
I know there is a lot of stuff out there, but i dont want to jump into some content that just isnt good. Since i am a beginner, i do not think i can make a correct judgement on what is good and what is not.

I am certainly a fish in chess, but it is not like i am a total beginner, i play from time to time for years (vs friends, online), just never really studied anything. Basically my current level is ~ I can beat almost all my opponents who have never studied the game extensivelly, but very few people who did.
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Old 05-28-2017, 07:13 PM   #6
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https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...uF8GuWkI1EJ8Zp
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Old 05-30-2017, 02:31 AM   #7
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Hey guys,

I am a complete fish @ chess, but i do have some spare time now (a few weeks) that i would like to invest in studying the game and improving as much as possible. Never did before.

What would you recommend? Are there any good materials on the interwebz?

Thanks
chesstempo.com, do five puzzles a day, and you'll be rated 2000 in a few years. Puzzles are at your approximate level and get harder as you get better with an ELO rating system.
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Old 07-14-2017, 10:12 AM   #8
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Re: Improving in chess

Openings are overrated. U can simply learn them from playing others.
Whats important though u really need to play carefull in the opening since one mistake can lead to loss.

Learning tactics on chesstempo.com is a nice one. Other then that just play matches. At least thats what i did and l managed to have a pretty solid game.

And btw, no one should even care about its chesstempo rating lol.

Though about openings. Watch the best and simplest openings on YT. U only need one for both sides to start. White: e4 and the horse thing....
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Old 07-14-2017, 10:58 AM   #9
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Openings are overrated. U can simply learn them from playing others.
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Whats important though u really need to play carefull in the opening since one mistake can lead to loss.
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Old 07-15-2017, 11:55 AM   #10
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Yeah man totally. Tx for noticing.
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Old 07-30-2017, 01:31 AM   #11
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Re: Improving in chess

Check out the great advice here
https://www.quora.com/How-can-I-impr...-chess-skill-1

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As a beginner, do not play full games at all. It will deter you away from the beauty of the game. You'll inevitably lose against your opponent and you will feel frustrated. Unless you're playing against a tutor/someone who will guide you, you won't learn from your mistakes. It's useless. Instead, focus on dividing your game into three parts. Opening game, middlegame, and endgame. Strategize in those three areas and see try to analyze the cause/effect relationship.

Chess is not just a game about strategy. It's a game of style, poise, and ego. You should develop an individual game.

Opening Game:

Let's take the opening game.

The opening game is all about:

developing your pieces
not moving the same piece twice in the first 10 moves
not bringing your queen out early
castling
moving/attacking towards the center
strategizing

You should start by emulating famous games that use the ten most common chess openings.

Sicilian defense - Viswanathan Anand vs Sergey Karjakin
Ruy Lopez - Paul Morphy vs Johann Jacob Loewenthal
Pirc defense - Robert James Fischer vs Viktor Korchnoi
Queen's Gambit - Ossip Bernstein vs Jose Raul Capablanca
Reti opening - Robert James Fischer vs Oscar Panno
French defense - Mikhail Chigorin vs Joseph Henry Blackburne
Italian opening/Evan's Gambit - Adolf Anderssen vs James Gayler Finch
Caro-Kann defense - Mikhail Tal vs Anatoly Karpov
English opening - Anthony Cornelis Kosten vs Thomas Clarke
Four Knights - Ray Charles vs Larry Melvyn Evans

Try to compare the games with each other to understand the differences. For example, ask yourself, why is the Italian opening more aggressive than the Reti? What results does it yield in the middle game? How do these chess openings follow through with the prior suggestions?


Middlegame:

Observe what the players are doing and try to understand the mindset behind their move. Some questions you should ask yourself are when a move has been made:

Are there any unprotected pieces on the board?
Which piece is he trying to attack?
Who has more piece value?
How many legal moves versus how many good moves are there?

I would recommend reading good books on chess for your middlegame to understand the most strategic/logical pattern. Try to learn and study from tactics and patterns.


Endgame:

The greatest and quickest way to improve your endgame is to do many, many chess puzzles. There are numerous apps on the market for these. Chess puzzles basically show you endgames in which you have to make a move for checkmate in one or two.

Doing 15-30 puzzles each day will allow you to see the board in a different light. You will see combinations that your opponent won't see and it will drastically improve the way you play and strategize. TacticTrainer is a great app for this. It's three bucks, but it's worth it as it has thousands of chess puzzles.

The highly revered book for improving your endgame is Comprehensive Endgame Course by Silman. I haven't read it, but it is recommended everywhere I look. And then, like your opening game, learn basic checkmates you should know:

Queen and Knight
Two Bishops
Two Major Pieces
Smothered Mate
Bishop and King
Morphy's Mate
Back Rank Mate
King and Pawn

Don't only learn to play these mates - learn how to avoid them. Learn to get into your opponent's mind.


When you've improved all three parts of your game, then I recommend using the app Shredder Chess. It's a wonderful app because it's smart. It adjusts to levels that are reasonable for your level and even calculates your Elo rating.

Good luck.
Also this is my favourite place for videos to improve your game:
https://www.youtube.com/user/STLChessClub

I highly recommend anything by Yasser Seirawan he has a very engaging teaching style. The classes he runs for children at the weekend are also great and fun for adults just starting out. You'll find a tonne of videos on there by him.
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Old 07-31-2017, 10:10 AM   #12
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Re: Improving in chess

Wait, the best way to get good at chess is to not play chess?

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Old 08-01-2017, 06:22 AM   #13
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Re: Improving in chess

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Check out the great advice here
https://www.quora.com/How-can-I-impr...-chess-skill-1

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Also this is my favourite place for videos to improve your game:
https://www.youtube.com/user/STLChessClub

I highly recommend anything by Yasser Seirawan he has a very engaging teaching style. The classes he runs for children at the weekend are also great and fun for adults just starting out. You'll find a tonne of videos on there by him.


****ing awesome post, thanks for this.


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Old 10-19-2017, 05:43 PM   #14
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Re: Improving in chess

Just stumbled onto this series myself. Jerry is an awesome teacher.
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