This game is on fics Im spacemanbryce (872) vs. champollion (1055)
Its a 5 0 blitz game.
1.d4 d5
2.c4

This is the queens gambit. I always play e4 and dont really know how to do the queens gambit but supposedly you can gain tempo this way.


2..dxc4
3. e4 Nf6
4.Nc3 b6



I don't really know what b6 does but in my dumb opinion its a bad move.
5.Bxc4 Bb7
6.Nf3 Nxe4
7.Nxe4 Bxe4

I sack a pawn because im ******ed


8. O-O e6
9.Ne5 f6
10Bb5+ c6



I hang another piece because im dumb. I thought that if i checked him i could free my knight even though c6 is obvious. ( i miss the fact that the bishop retakes when i first made the move)

11.Nxc6 Bxc6
12.bxc6+ Nxc6


Now im clearly down material and getting my ass kicked.
I attack as best as I can.

13.Qa4 Qd7
14.Be3 Be7
15.Rac1 Rc8
16.Rc4 O-O
17Rfc1

haha I got his knight back and has goot position afaik because hes played sloppy after destroying me in the opening.
17..... Na5 here he sacks his queen and im like zomg did i really just get his queen?

18.qxd7 Rxc4 (he messes up by taking with his rook instead of his knight imo)
19.Rxc4 Nxc4
20 Qxe7 Nxb2
21. Qxe6+


then he concedes . I know he is down 4 points on pices or whatever but its a little early to cncede given my play quality. we both had about 2:25 left on the clock

Yay1 I win the prize

obviously 6. Nf3 wuz dumb. what should i have done there??

lol 8. Bxf7+

Move 9 is left as an exercise for the OP.

9 Ne5 although I havent found the guaranteed checkmate yet.

No, just play 9. Ng5+ and then 10. Nxe4

This made me LMAO

Instead of Nf3, maybe just pawn to f3 to really blunt his fianchetto'd bishop

Also:

Did you sac the e pawn, or did you just hang it? There's a difference. To be honest it's better if you hung it, because it makes no sense as a sacrifice.

Dude, it's a game between beginners who are hanging pieces. You really think they should be thinking about "blunting the fianchettoed bishop"??

When i said sacrifice I basically meant hung. I barely know the difference between sacrifice and hung. I only found out about the queens gambit( I didn't really know there were different classifications of openings until then) yesterday because I like this fourm and decided to see what chess stuff I could find. Researching stuff on the internet is always fun and even with chess you can find some totally random stuff.

I am getting better when I first played on fics, my rating immediately dropped to 600. Hopefully I can learn the queens gambit and get up to 900! : )

In the end you can also win his knight by trapping it with Qb3 after he moves his king

You need to stay clear from the more difficult openings, queen's gambit is an opponent full of positional nuances and just focus on the most direct moves, focus on not hanging your pieces, and play only 1. e4.

no. I will learn the poistional nuances as I go.

Well technically you neither sacked nor hung a pawn, as 8. Bxf7+ wins it back, with a very very good position too. The rest of the game is.. well, not good But it's cool that you are posting, I am sure other posters will help you improve if you will keep doing that. Good luck!

Seriously, just play 1. e4 and try to checkmate your opponent from move one until you're at least 1200. You hung a pawn and missed a two-move combination to win it back. Forget the phrase "positional nuances".

Why is it wrong for a beginner to play 1. d4? "You must play 1. e4" seems unreasonably dogmatic to me, I see nothing wrong with trying different openings to see what you like. Sure 1. e4 tends to lead to more of an open, tactical game but you'll learn tactics anyway, as shown in this game with 8. Bxg7+ (but 6. Nf3 still hangs a pawn if black plays 6 ... Bxe4 7. Nxe4 Nxe4 and now 8. Bxg7+ doesn't work with the knight on e4).

Two things:

1. Evil Steve, your "8. Bxg7+" tells me that you need to work on your board vision (the square is f7). Not saying this to be rude, but I notice that players with weak board vision have trouble with algebraic notation, whereas stronger players with better board vision have absolutely no problem with algebraic notation. Also, after 6. ...Bxe4 7. Bxf7+ it's just the same thing after 7. ...Kxf7 8. Ng5+ Ke8/g8 9. Ngxe4 and if 9. ...Nxe4 then 10. Ncxe4

2. A beginner can play 1. d4 if they want to, if they play something simple and aggressive like the Torre or the Trompowski or the Barry attack or something similar. But not the Queen's Gambit. That's just laughable.

Yeah that post doesn't say much for my playing strength although I knew which square the bishop was capturing on, not sure why I typed Bxg7. But as you point out, Bxf7+ can be played right away after 6... Bxe4. In light of that, would you say 6. Nf3 is actually playable (even if 6. f3 might be better)?

I don't mean to question your judgment as a chess player, you're clearly a stronger player than me (especially evident after that last post of mine where I missed a very simple tactic!). I just didn't see what was wrong with a beginner trying 1. d4, as long as they aren't trying something weird like 1. g4.

I don't see any reason for a beginner not to play 1. d4. In fact I think they should try all kinds of things, it would be worse for them to end up always playing 1. e4 and never feeling they could experiment. Also there's nothing wrong with them playing the queen's gambit. They aren't going to end up in a main line Cambridge Springs or Anti-Meran every game (and who cares if they do?). Most of their time their opponents will play 2...dxc4 (free pawn ldo) and they can develop all their pieces and have lots of active possibilities.

One thing is that I enjoy playing blitz but its probably bad for my learning experience. I mean, I suck and all but under slow time controls I do not make 1 move in advance hangings. I think Im doing better with d4. My overall record on fics is 35 wins 89 losses and 6 draws with e4 and so far im 4 wins 2 losses with d4( I went crazy playing tons of 3- 5 mins blitz games for fun) Alright for fun Im going to play another queens gambit game and annotate the next game i play here ... I'm nervous that I will hang pieces and stuff but im rated 870 so I guess it doesnt matter. Here we go!

edit : I won the game with time control. my opponent clobbered me and I had a ridiculous pawn structure.
I also played evil steve and the first game he killed me but in the second it was close and i missed a checkmate.

Yeah you definitely had me beat in the second game after I got my queen trapped. I think I won't be posting the moves from that game (though you can if you like). Let me know if you want to play some more blitz games, I could use the practice.

How about trying a variety of openings? That way, you can try a whole lot. If you only play one opening, then you won't learn as much. That is just my opinion man.

Beginners shouldn't play 1. d4 because they will end up in closed positions more often, and they will have no clue what to do. In open positions (of the sort that arise from 1. e4) they can just pick a square or a pawn or their opponent's king and aim their pieces at it. I'm of the firm opinion that beginners should learn how to launch a mating attack before they learn how to exploit a backward pawn.

good point anyway, I played 6 games today most of them in queens gambit and I predictably played like ****. I went 2-4 and only won one of those because of time. I was actually ahead in material in two games i lost but played a crappy endgame.

spaceman bryce what I am doing now is posting a position from two types of games and then you can like, say which position you'd prefer to play man

POSITION A



POSITION B