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04-22-2009 , 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by quickfetus
I'm glad you said this, since you're just wrong. If there is a way, do talk to LateKnight, any ICC administrator, whomever. I can beyond a trace of doubt guarantee that there was once a VivaArgentina handle which cracked 2500 ICC Blitz. This stuff is all stored, as you pointed out; apparently your search only indicated a more recent account of mine by the same name. Maybe someone here with knowledge of how ICC works can tell you how to search for handles which have been gone for ages? This would have been about 5-6 years ago.

Edit: Surely you wouldn't mind mentioning your USCF rating?

Edit: And just to indicate that this isn't some sort of pissing contest, I'm a decent, but certainly not terribly strong player, as the posters here who know me IRL would know; 2100 FIDE and 2100 USCF.
btw for those who don't play on ICC, 2500 blitz on ICC is not quite as high as it sounds, since the top ratings go to like 3500-3600. For someone rated 2100 FIDE this is actually close to a relatively normal rating I think. There are tons of different rating systems with different meanings behind the ratings, so it can get very confusing.
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04-22-2009 , 03:10 PM
One other thing: It's fine if you don't believe me, fi inahigherlevel. This is a good friend of mine IRL. He cracked 2500 ICC Blitz, got to around 2300 5-min, and can't crack 2000 OTB.

FWIW this is all from memory; I don't have ICC so I can't check it myself.
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04-22-2009 , 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by curtains
btw for those who don't play on ICC, 2500 blitz on ICC is not quite as high as it sounds, since the top ratings go to like 3500-3600. For someone rated 2100 FIDE this is actually close to a relatively normal rating I think. There are tons of different rating systems with different meanings behind the ratings, so it can get very confusing.
Yah but I was 1800 USCF when I had teh rating, curtains . My more recent attempts at ICC blitz involved playing 5-min and barely being able to sustain 2200. 5-min ratings are much lower than blitz ones, of course.

I'm probably a terrible internet blitz player now FWIW.
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04-22-2009 , 03:12 PM
Ok this whole thread is tilting me way too much, I'm not going to open 2+2 for the rest of the day.

Ninja edit: This is obviously in reference to Dire, not curtains or anyone else.
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04-22-2009 , 03:23 PM
quickfetus, I wasn't trying to insult you or mudsling. I don't doubt that you broke 2500 at some point but it seemingly didn't last and you never even got to played against a titled player while having that rating or even particularly close to it for that matter. I'm just trying to express how things seem from my perspective.

It'd be analagous to me saying: I won a national live event otb. Been there, done that. It was ridiculous, and that was at an event where people were shelling out hundreds to play! Otb is such a joke. You are saying online players frequently do not care/etc appealing to nothing more than your own authority on the topic but without any notable success or even play against decent online opponents. Maybe you get what I'm saying now? How would you know?
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04-22-2009 , 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by PyramidScheme
I disagree 100% on Krush. You are not allowed to move peices before your opponent punches their clock. Krush was absoltuly right to be annoyed but she should have said something at the time and not the next day. I guess she was just too heated at Zan's ignorance of how to play blitz and it was understandable.


I do agree though that THAT game beign used to decide a championship is ludicrous.
This is an opinion I simply don't understand. First, show me the rule where you cannot move until your opponent presses their clock in a blitz game. It simply isn't there. Secondly, Irina made moves on Zatonskih's time, so I have no idea why she is claiming to be a victim. Finally, making your move as soon as your opponent releases their piece is super, super standard in rated blitz games.
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04-22-2009 , 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by swingdoc
This is an opinion I simply don't understand. First, show me the rule where you cannot move until your opponent presses their clock in a blitz game. It simply isn't there. Secondly, Irina made moves on Zatonskih's time, so I have no idea why she is claiming to be a victim. Finally, making your move as soon as your opponent releases their piece is super, super standard in rated blitz games.
It seems you haven't seen Pyramidscheme's posts before.
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04-22-2009 , 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by quickfetus
One other thing: It's fine if you don't believe me, fi inahigherlevel. This is a good friend of mine IRL. He cracked 2500 ICC Blitz, got to around 2300 5-min, and can't crack 2000 OTB.

FWIW this is all from memory; I don't have ICC so I can't check it myself.
There's some strange stuff going on with that account. He has a 2550 standard rating. At one time he went from 2492 to to 1960 in exactly two months, without ever once playing a titled player or a player rated over 2300. He then proceeded to bring it back to 2551 again without ever playing a titled player or a player rated over 2300. And now with a best in 5-min of 2271, he's 1985 blitz and 1891 5-min.
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04-22-2009 , 04:09 PM
Anyhow yeah, I'm also spending way too much time in this thread. And I'm not even sure exactly what we're arguing about anymore. Everything seems to have just blended into some hazy internet versus live conglomerate and I have the utmost respect for both so it's kind of odd for me to be the 'internet defender'.

I'd say I won't be opening it again, but I know I'll be back here tomorrow. Reminds of channel 43 on ICC. All that we're missing now is the classic chess skill: IQ? talent? work? 'debate'.

-ch 43

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04-25-2009 , 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by YouKnowWho
Whoever was guessing they FIDE rating based on their ICC rating - are you serious? Not saying that internet chess sucks, that people don't play seriously or anything like this, but how come no one (maybe I missed it?) took in to consideration the rating inflation on ICC? I mean there are probably 50 or more players on ICC that have 3000+ in blitz. The top FIDE rating in the world is 2800+. The differences probably become way smaller at lower level, but still, the fact that you can reach 1800 on ICC blitz doesn't mean that you are 1800 FIDE, or even close to that.

Dire, of course there are tons of people that take internet chess seriously. But you also cannot deny a fact that there are tons of players, who play pretty much for fun. For example, nowadays I play on ICC/Playchess whenever I feel like it, or am tilting or something like that. I definitely do not play even remotely close to what I could play, because I am either having fun or am just so mad at everything that I do not care and just push pieces around. Therefore my blitz rating that was 2500ish all the time fell to like mid 2300. It means someone gained that rating. By playing a guy who is not playing seriously. You see where I am going?
Wow, this thread is such a joke. I mean look at this guy.

lol, seriously dude. I said standard ratings. The standard ratings(I did some research on my own for awhile) correlate extremely well with FIDE/USCF compared to any other ratings I can find online. I know no one cares. But before you type a whole paragraph or two just consider you might be commenting about the wrong stuff. I know the blitz ratings are bizarre but I know for a fact that the standard ratings are a very good way to compare yourself to FIDE or USCF relative to any other method.


No offence but I can seriously tell that you haven't played that much, especially online. I have played tens of thousands of games in only 2 years online and those games were spread out over just about any website I could find. Most of the time I asked ppl what their live ratings were because I wanted to compare myself with what everyone considered the only ratings that mattered.

I am really convinced that if I get back into things I can EASILY be 1950+ but I am still saying oh...maybe 1850-1950...blah whatever you know. I don't care about this stuff anymore.


Damn I just burned out on you. Sorry.

edit: This guy might not even be talking about me so just ignore me I am probably being a total douchebag, sry
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04-25-2009 , 10:15 PM
@ Tacto:

- The thing you said about standard ratings is lol.

- The guy you claim "hasn't played that much" is a strong NM and Fide Master. Nice try though!

- I see you asked people about their live ratings. Perhaps some of them were dishonest with you?

- You are convinced you could be 1950 EASILY. . . kool?
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04-25-2009 , 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Tacto
I know for a fact that the standard ratings are a very good way to compare yourself to FIDE or USCF relative to any other method.
This is umm ... really wrong. Very, very few really strong players play standard rated games on ICC. Actually, the entire pool of standard players is pretty small and the bots probably mess with it more than others. But then again you've played thousands of online games in the last 2 years.
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04-26-2009 , 07:47 AM
yeah, I know that post was really ******ed
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04-26-2009 , 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Dire
All that we're missing now is the classic chess skill: IQ? talent? work? 'debate'.
Starting young, and it's not close.
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04-26-2009 , 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by TomCowley
Starting young, and it's not close.
this
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04-26-2009 , 07:43 PM
My suggestion to all of you guys here... is to listen to curtains in what all this questions refer to.. he seems to be the only one around this forum from what I can see who knows what he is talking about... take it from me... I know Greg... he is a very good player... only poker players u should listen to when it comes to chess are him.... Walter Browne... Ylon Schwartz and of course Grischuk if he was here.... also not sure if Zarnicki is around... as far as accomplished chess players....when it comes to me I was decent once.... now just washed up and dead money in poker... but learning....
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04-27-2009 , 01:25 AM
Hahaha, tubby?
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04-27-2009 , 08:40 AM
yeah I hear that Dan Harrington guy is a patzer
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04-27-2009 , 09:58 AM
Or Nakamura, etc.

I'm 99% sure that's tubby and he's a very bitter man.
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04-27-2009 , 11:01 AM
actually the wonderful thing about that list is who exactly it considers a "poker person". Greg and Ylon Schwartz, sure, but surely Grischuk is a "chess person" who might be able to give you some poker advice.
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