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A.Ertbjerg vs. Sholar: Malkovich Game A.Ertbjerg vs. Sholar: Malkovich Game

11-26-2011 , 09:21 PM
Spoiler:
Qc2+ is only move I think. At least I can't find anything advantageous for white in other lines and Qc2+ keeps the draw




1.e4 c6 2.c4 d5 3.cxd5 cxd5 4.exd5 Nf6 5.Bb5+ Nbd7 6.Nc3 a6 7.Be2 b5 8.Bf3 Bb7 9.d6 Bxf3 10.Nxf3 e6 11.d4 b4 12.Ne2 Bxd6 13.0-0 Nd5 14.Bg5 Qa5 15.Qc2 0-0 16.Rfc1 Ra7 17.Qc6 Qc7 18.Ng3 Bxg3 19.hxg3 Qb8 20.Bd2 N7b6 21.Qc2 Rc8 22.Qd3 Nd7 23.Bf4 Rxc1+ 24.Rxc1 Qb7 25.Be5 Ra8 26.Ng5 N7f6 27.Rc5 h6 28.Ne4 Nd7 29.Rc2 Nf8 30.Nd6 Qb6 31.Nc4 Qd8 32.Bd6 a5 33.a3 Nh7 34.a4 Nhf6 35.Qf3 Nd7 36.Be5 Rc8 37.Qd3 N5b6 38.Nd6 Rxc2 39.Qxc2 Qg5 40.Qc7 Qd2 41.Nc8 Nxe5 42.Ne7+ Kh7 43.dxe5 Nd5 44.Nxd5 Qxd5 45.f4 Kg6 46.Qc2+
A.Ertbjerg vs. Sholar: Malkovich Game Quote
11-26-2011 , 09:26 PM
Spoiler:
Not sure we really need the moves and a diagram, but I'll keep the tradition. f5 is the only move here that doesn't lose.


1.e4 c6 2.c4 d5 3.cxd5 cxd5 4.exd5 Nf6 5.Bb5+ Nbd7 6.Nc3 a6 7.Be2 b5 8.Bf3 Bb7 9.d6 Bxf3 10.Nxf3 e6 11.d4 b4 12.Ne2 Bxd6 13.0-0 Nd5 14.Bg5 Qa5 15.Qc2 0-0 16.Rfc1 Ra7 17.Qc6 Qc7 18.Ng3 Bxg3 19.hxg3 Qb8 20.Bd2 N7b6 21.Qc2 Rc8 22.Qd3 Nd7 23.Bf4 Rxc1+ 24.Rxc1 Qb7 25.Be5 Ra8 26.Ng5 N7f6 27.Rc5 h6 28.Ne4 Nd7 29.Rc2 Nf8 30.Nd6 Qb6 31.Nc4 Qd8 32.Bd6 a5 33.a3 Nh7 34.a4 Nhf6 35.Qf3 Nd7 36.Be5 Rc8 37.Qd3 N5b6 38.Nd6 Rxc2 39.Qxc2 Qg5 40.Qc7 Qd2 41.Nc8 Nxe5 42.Ne7+ Kh7 43.dxe5 Nd5 44.Nxd5 Qxd5 45.f4 Kg6 46.Qc2+ f5
A.Ertbjerg vs. Sholar: Malkovich Game Quote
11-26-2011 , 09:35 PM
Spoiler:
Let's see if he wants to continue or if he will force the draw




1.e4 c6 2.c4 d5 3.cxd5 cxd5 4.exd5 Nf6 5.Bb5+ Nbd7 6.Nc3 a6 7.Be2 b5 8.Bf3 Bb7 9.d6 Bxf3 10.Nxf3 e6 11.d4 b4 12.Ne2 Bxd6 13.0-0 Nd5 14.Bg5 Qa5 15.Qc2 0-0 16.Rfc1 Ra7 17.Qc6 Qc7 18.Ng3 Bxg3 19.hxg3 Qb8 20.Bd2 N7b6 21.Qc2 Rc8 22.Qd3 Nd7 23.Bf4 Rxc1+ 24.Rxc1 Qb7 25.Be5 Ra8 26.Ng5 N7f6 27.Rc5 h6 28.Ne4 Nd7 29.Rc2 Nf8 30.Nd6 Qb6 31.Nc4 Qd8 32.Bd6 a5 33.a3 Nh7 34.a4 Nhf6 35.Qf3 Nd7 36.Be5 Rc8 37.Qd3 N5b6 38.Nd6 Rxc2 39.Qxc2 Qg5 40.Qc7 Qd2 41.Nc8 Nxe5 42.Ne7+ Kh7 43.dxe5 Nd5 44.Nxd5 Qxd5 45.f4 Kg6 46.Qc2+ f5 47.Qc7
A.Ertbjerg vs. Sholar: Malkovich Game Quote
11-26-2011 , 09:39 PM
Spoiler:
ffs I just forgot to play Kh2

Qd1+ is winning for him now
A.Ertbjerg vs. Sholar: Malkovich Game Quote
11-26-2011 , 10:16 PM
Spoiler:
Hmm. This was not on my short list of potential White moves. Let me see if I can grab that a4 pawn safely...specifically, after 47...Qd1+ 48.Kh2 Qxa4. I'm not sure why White would allow this...usually I had White trying to get the e6 pawn in return, but in this line, the Black queen can defend e6 via b3, d7, or e8, and White's next move can't prevent all of those.

Perhaps a timely g4 still secures the draw, but that seems like a very complicated way of doing that.

I looked at that idea in some lines when White had already captured the pawn on e6, but in this situation, I didn't really consider the idea at all.

I'm tempted to just grab the pawn, as I don't see how my king can be in any real danger, but that sort of thinking sometimes leads to trouble. No reason not to try and figure out White's plan here first.

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Black's other options would be Kh7 (basically admitting that no progress can be made -- might as well take the perpetual with Qd1+ in that case) and Qd4+ (taking on b2). This second option is similar to some other lines I looked at -- typically, White has enough counterplay because e6 can't be defended with the queen -- say after 47...Qd4+ 48.Kf2 Qxb2 49.Qc4. And if e6 falls, White has perpetual check threats as well as just pushing the e-pawn.
A.Ertbjerg vs. Sholar: Malkovich Game Quote
11-27-2011 , 12:23 AM
Spoiler:
Something like 47...Qxd4+ 48.Kh2 Qxb2 49.Qc4 Kh7 50.Qxe6 Qc2 51.g4

is an example of g4 lines working if White already can captured on e6 -- very hard to see how Black can prevent White from getting the draw here.

However, that's just not the case in the 47...Qd1+ lines. Black can only improve his king/queen position, so best for White is something like 47...Qd1+ 48.Kh2 Qxa4 49.g4 fxg4 50.Qc4 Qd7 51.Qe4+ Kh5 and White's king is the less safe.


If White attacks "from behind" (Q@d6, e7), then Kxf5 is a perfectly fine way to meet f5+.

Delaying g4 doesn't seem any better, and if Black controls e8, he can even play h5 and prevent g4 altogether.

Looks like a free pawn. At the very least, Black is in no danger, so this has to be the right move.


1.e4 c6 2.c4 d5 3.cxd5 cxd5 4.exd5 Nf6 5.Bb5+ Nbd7 6.Nc3 a6 7.Be2 b5 8.Bf3 Bb7 9.d6 Bxf3 10.Nxf3 e6 11.d4 b4 12.Ne2 Bxd6 13.0-0 Nd5 14.Bg5 Qa5 15.Qc2 0-0 16.Rfc1 Ra7 17.Qc6 Qc7 18.Ng3 Bxg3 19.hxg3 Qb8 20.Bd2 N7b6 21.Qc2 Rc8 22.Qd3 Nd7 23.Bf4 Rxc1+ 24.Rxc1 Qb7 25.Be5 Ra8 26.Ng5 N7f6 27.Rc5 h6 28.Ne4 Nd7 29.Rc2 Nf8 30.Nd6 Qb6 31.Nc4 Qd8 32.Bd6 a5 33.a3 Nh7 34.a4 Nhf6 35.Qf3 Nd7 36.Be5 Rc8 37.Qd3 N5b6 38.Nd6 Rxc2 39.Qxc2 Qg5 40.Qc7 Qd2 41.Nc8 Nxe5 42.Ne7+ Kh7 43.dxe5 Nd5 44.Nxd5 Qxd5 45.f4 Kg6 46.Qc2+ f5 47.Qc7 Qd1+
A.Ertbjerg vs. Sholar: Malkovich Game Quote
11-27-2011 , 12:32 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by A.Ertbjerg
Spoiler:
ffs I just forgot to play Kh2

Qd1+ is winning for him now
I resign.

Thanks for the game now I'll have to go kill some kittens.
A.Ertbjerg vs. Sholar: Malkovich Game Quote
11-27-2011 , 12:39 AM
Good game, although an unfortunate end. Your intended continuation...almost certainly a draw. Definitely that's the rational result, so please spare the kittens.
A.Ertbjerg vs. Sholar: Malkovich Game Quote
11-27-2011 , 12:43 AM
And thanks for the game, it was interesting to play, and I will definitely have to revisit it and the spoilers soon.

I feel like I had the better position out of the opening and just got outplayed in the middlegame--as I mentioned somewhere, the basic idea of trying to trade minor pieces and keep the rooks when working against the IQP wasn't as clear to me then as it is now. Somewhere in the late middlegame, you let the pressure off the kingside a bit, and I think a drawn outcome is pretty reasonable, all things considered.

It'll be interesting to put this thing through a strong engine and see where it spots errors. I'll do that with my ancient software and post the results at some point...
A.Ertbjerg vs. Sholar: Malkovich Game Quote
11-27-2011 , 12:47 AM
Yeah I agree (as you will see when you read the spoilers). My opening was bad and I think I equalized during the mid game. I don't think I ever was better to any meaningful extent but it was a interesting position in which both sides had chances.
A.Ertbjerg vs. Sholar: Malkovich Game Quote
11-27-2011 , 02:18 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sholar
Good game, although an unfortunate end. Your intended continuation...almost certainly a draw. Definitely that's the rational result, so please spare the kittens.
No! Someone has to suffer for this!
A.Ertbjerg vs. Sholar: Malkovich Game Quote
11-27-2011 , 04:15 AM
gg guys, was a good game to watch
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