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02-11-2011 , 05:07 PM
This is from my last game. I'm Black and took a draw when White offered a draw by repetition, ... Kb6, Qb3+ Kc7, Qg3 Kb6, etc. I think Black is worse here so I was happy with the draw. How do you evaluate the position? Is Black much worse or is it pretty even? Thanks.

BTW my rooks look weird cuz I just munched a pawn on f5 when the Re5 was pinned.

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02-11-2011 , 10:06 PM
I expect it's drawish anyway, two rooks are better than a queen but you can't easily co-ordinate them and you can't give them up for say the queen and g2 pawn. It's going to take you so long to put them both on the second rank that he might queen his h-pawn if you aren't careful.

I think I would take the draw, assuming an opponent about my rating and equal time. White has excellent practical chances to win one of your rooks if you play for a win. Maybe Black is doing well if you ask the computer though, it can hide the king somewhere and use tricks to stop h3-h4-h5 working while it takes a queenside pawn.
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02-11-2011 , 11:16 PM
Crafty has it at about .3. I thought White could march his king and two pawns down and eventually force a trade of queen and pawn for the two rooks, which looked like it would be better for him, but I wasn't sure. Thanks, roundtower.
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02-14-2011 , 02:14 AM
white pawns look scary, i accept draw.
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02-14-2011 , 02:22 AM
I am playing this for a win as white 100% of time, and taking a draw as black 100% of the time.

Computer evaluation does not matter to me at all in this instance, because in a practical OTB play black can win this maybe 5% of the time, lose 35% or so and draw the rest.
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02-14-2011 , 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by YouKnowWho
I am playing this for a win as white 100% of time, and taking a draw as black 100% of the time.

Computer evaluation does not matter to me at all in this instance, because in a practical OTB play black can win this maybe 5% of the time, lose 35% or so and draw the rest.
this, if things go wrong white has still chances to bail out, and honestly i don't see how things can go wrong for white if he doesn't blunder his K-side pawns somehow. OTOH, there's lots that can go wrong for black.
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02-14-2011 , 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by YouKnowWho
I am playing this for a win as white 100% of time, and taking a draw as black 100% of the time.

Computer evaluation does not matter to me at all in this instance, because in a practical OTB play black can win this maybe 5% of the time, lose 35% or so and draw the rest.
110% agree. Connected passed pawns absolutely destroy rooks nearly every single time.

In a more specific sense, this position is stacked against black as much as possible. White's connected passers are on the opposite side of the board from black's king and also supported by white's king. In addition, black has no passed pawn and it will take a long time to create one. Actually, black will never get the chance because he will be too busy trying to stop the white pawns.

The more I talk about it, the more I think this position might already be completely lost for black. I bet a computer with error-less defense could save it, but like YouKnowWho mentioned, in a practical setting black wins this at most 5% of the time.
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