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09-27-2022 , 02:44 PM
Allegedly the evidence is Hans' hundreds of OTB games that are statistical outliers according to chessbase's "let's check" feature. That's the latest "evidence" at least. I know far too little about stats and cheat detection with stats to know if it should be actual evidence or not.
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09-27-2022 , 04:25 PM
I'm a lawyer. The strangest part of the statement is the bit at the end where Magnus says that he is limited in what he can without explicit permission from Niemann.

It's true that you can say anything about anyone if they give you explicit permission. But if that's all Magnus meant, the statement is meaningless.
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09-27-2022 , 04:49 PM
Grischuk said it perfectly about that game: 'Nieman played average and Carlsen played badly.'

I think we can all accept Sasha as an unbiased observer of that OTB game, no?
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09-28-2022 , 04:13 AM


the long version


impressive computer like performance by hans

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09-28-2022 , 02:29 PM
Wow, holy ****. Five straight tournaments playing better than Fischer during his 20 game win streak.

Also, respect to that guy from one of the video examples…got to a 45 move endgame against Stockfish only down a few pawns.
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09-28-2022 , 09:13 PM
Yeah, I'm pretty sure the question of Hans' past cheating online is totally irrelevant to Carlsen's accusations of OTB cheating.

If someone gets murdered, you don't go rounding up the money launderers and car thieves and tax fraudsters because: Felonies!
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09-28-2022 , 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by NajdorfDefense
Yeah, I'm pretty sure the question of Hans' past cheating online is totally irrelevant to Carlsen's accusations of OTB cheating.

If someone gets murdered, you don't go rounding up the money launderers and car thieves and tax fraudsters because: Felonies!
Just a precision because I do not know which side u are leaning on but all those games from the videos analysis are from OTB games , not online it seems .

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09-29-2022 , 10:40 AM
So the guy has a) a history of cheating and b) a lot of circumstantial evidence that he's making computer moves. Maybe Magnus isn't so out of line after all.
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09-29-2022 , 12:20 PM
That matching algorithm is questionable. One GM claims that in a game that was given a 100% match, there was at least one blunder and a high centipawn loss.

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