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Old 08-28-2018, 12:41 PM   #6926
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Re: *** Chess Low Content Thread ***

Well, Grischuk didn't see it, so its probably difficult.
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Old 08-28-2018, 01:39 PM   #6927
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Re: *** Chess Low Content Thread ***

It is, of course. He was under a minute, though, playing a naturally looking move (developing your unmoved Rook, connecting it to your Queen) on instinct mostly.
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Old 08-28-2018, 04:16 PM   #6928
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Re: *** Chess Low Content Thread ***

"Levon's Rxf7 was one of the most gangster moves I've seen in my life."

- Fabiano Caruana

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Old 08-29-2018, 03:32 AM   #6929
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Re: *** Chess Low Content Thread ***

I think yall didn't mention the main aspect, i.e. that Qe7 is much more about prophylaxis than about a direct attack. Even after Qe7, Rf6 is not really a threat while the rook is on g6, so the main winning idea remains the same - h4-h5, etc. But it cannot be done right away, because of the Qd7 idea that Rd8 created. Therefore, Qe7 is needed primarily not as an attacking move (it actually does not add much to the attack at all, compared to the Q being on c7), but rather a prophylaxis against Qd7 (which fails to Rf8+).
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Old 08-29-2018, 03:41 AM   #6930
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Re: *** Chess Low Content Thread ***

Deflection FTW.
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Old 08-29-2018, 06:17 AM   #6931
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Thanks for chiming in, YKW!

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(it actually does not add much to the attack at all, compared to the Q being on c7)
is the main reason patzers like myself fail to see these sort of moves. If you told me that in above position there is a move that swings the comp eval by 700 cp in my favour, Qe7 is the last move I'd look at.
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Old 08-30-2018, 05:37 PM   #6932
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*** Chess Low Content Thread ***

I saw on bwin sports betting that Magnus is -250 and Caruana is +200 for the World Championship.

Thoughts?
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Old 08-30-2018, 09:45 PM   #6933
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Re: *** Chess Low Content Thread ***

Caruana seems like a pretty good bet there imo.
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Old 08-30-2018, 09:46 PM   #6934
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Caruana seems like a pretty good bet there imo.


Yeah if you like lighting money on fire. *** Chess Low Content Thread ****** Chess Low Content Thread ***
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Old 08-30-2018, 11:36 PM   #6935
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Perhaps we make a friendly wager, juiceless?
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Old 08-30-2018, 11:40 PM   #6936
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Perhaps we make a friendly wager, juiceless?


I don't bet real money with random people on the internet.
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Old 08-31-2018, 06:34 PM   #6937
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Caruana seems like a pretty good bet there imo.
Isn't the tiebreaker blitz? Caruana is pretty bad at blitz.
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Old 09-02-2018, 10:03 AM   #6938
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Yeah, effectively draw odds for Carlsen. Hoping for a good match!
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Old 09-03-2018, 10:57 PM   #6939
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Isn't the tiebreaker blitz? Caruana is pretty bad at blitz.
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Old 09-12-2018, 11:35 AM   #6940
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Ha that was great.
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Old 09-12-2018, 02:35 PM   #6941
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Re: *** Chess Low Content Thread ***

on the other hand caruana beat grischuk in a blitz match, so he can play as good as anybody even in blitz. also the tiebreak will be rapid first.
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Old 09-12-2018, 07:39 PM   #6942
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on the other hand caruana beat grischuk in a blitz match, so he can play as good as anybody even in blitz. also the tiebreak will be rapid first.


Rapid is just a long blitz game anyway.

Fabi's gonna choke. The gold jacket's yours Magnus!
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Old 09-13-2018, 02:59 PM   #6943
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Re: *** Chess Low Content Thread ***

I would argue that the chess betting market is quite strong. Its not an event that has enough intrest from clueless people to make it profitable.

That being said if you pointed a gun at my head I would pick Caruana because I think the US chess federation will pour tons of money into his preparation but I wouldnt really touch that bet iyam.
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Old 09-13-2018, 03:38 PM   #6944
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I would argue that the chess betting market is quite strong. Its not an event that has enough intrest from clueless people to make it profitable.

That being said if you pointed a gun at my head I would pick Caruana because I think Rex Sinquefield will pour tons of money into his preparation but I wouldnt really touch that bet iyam.
fixt.

Also, "effective draw odds" is the craziest exaggeration I've heard in a while.
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Old 09-14-2018, 02:48 AM   #6945
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Re: *** Chess Low Content Thread ***

No love for our boy Parham?

A bit of a heater!

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Old 09-14-2018, 10:32 AM   #6946
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Re: *** Chess Low Content Thread ***

Allegedly works 10 hours/day on chess. Seems like hard work does actually pay off!

Although at that pace and age burnout could be an issue - no way can he have any sort of other life with that much actually chess work every day. I guess, maybe, if that 10 hours includes chess-related non work.
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Old 09-14-2018, 11:33 AM   #6947
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Re: *** Chess Low Content Thread ***

I've watched an interview of his earlier today. It seems that, at the very least, he's putting in decent hours practicing his English (the language, not the opening). So he seems to not be a one trick chess pony.
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Old 09-14-2018, 04:57 PM   #6948
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Won again in great fashion today. Up to 2690, 9.5 out of 10 in the Wch u-20 (2pts ahead of the second place), and 18 out of last 19. What in the actual f...
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Old 09-14-2018, 08:42 PM   #6949
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Yeah, he had a pretty nice heater earlier this year in some strong tournament I think. Maybe he is just going to be 2800 in a year, he seems to keep finding ways to win whether defending, attacking, maneuvering, etc.
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Old 09-14-2018, 10:24 PM   #6950
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Re: *** Chess Low Content Thread ***

Saw and noted his jump prior to the World Juniors. This is nuts though. Absurd heater.
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