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Nf3 is very good, especially vs someone who doesn't know that you're not prepared well against 2... e5. Another good line for White is 2. Nc3 Nf6 3. d4 d5 4. e5 Ne4 (Nd7 is better but looks too passive to a typical Nimzo player) 5. Nxe4 fxe4 6. c3 g6 7. Ne2 Bf5 8. Ng3 - after that, White shouldn't try to win the e4 pawn fast, but instead, he should just develop pieces, e.g. Be3, Bb5, Qb3 (depending on Black's moves, of course). Analyse possible scenarios arising after 2. Nc3 with Stockfish - I don't know a better way to approach openings, though engines are rather bad at them without an extensive library.

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07-29-2016 , 11:49 PM

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ChrisV

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OK, thanks. Yeah I find it interesting how bad engines are at openings, because it implies pretty strongly that they are still bad in comparison to a perfect player in other positions as well. We just don't have anything to compare them to.

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07-30-2016 , 07:13 AM

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Faustfan

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I think some chess engine programmer said they expect the engines in 5 years to win 90% of the games against today's Komodo and stockfish. So, yeah, they are still far from perfect. Not sure if I find that inspiring or scary

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07-30-2016 , 10:52 AM

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That sounds unlikely because Komodo and Stockfish don't win 90% of games against 5 year old engines and it's going to get tougher and tougher to improve engines over time.

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07-30-2016 , 11:14 AM

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I need a link to the programmer's interview, but I guess that interview was related to AlphaGo's success and he was so optimistic because supervised deep learning, which was rather unexplored 5 years ago, looks like a major breakthrough in AI programming.

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07-30-2016 , 11:12 PM

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BobJoeJim

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Hey guys! If anyone's still lurking here, I finally posted a Prodigy Watch update over at my not-quite-defunct blog. Yes I'm still alive!

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07-30-2016 , 11:39 PM

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The Yugoslavian

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Nice update!

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07-31-2016 , 12:54 AM

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ChrisV

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Maybe. Machine learning is definitely not going to replace brute force tree search anytime soon, the problems it has been successful with are those that are not amenable to brute force. But possibly position evaluation can be much improved via machine learning.

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07-31-2016 , 05:56 AM

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Fabian

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BJJ,

Nice to see you update the blog again, I always enjoyed reading it and was happy to see it pop up on my twitter feed today!

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08-04-2016 , 12:12 PM

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coon74

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Hey guys! If anyone's still lurking here, I finally posted a Prodigy Watch update over at my not-quite-defunct blog. Yes I'm still alive!

We'll soon have to learn to pronounce the name 'Praggnanandhaa'.

Speaking of Mato's narration style, it (as well as GM Dimitri Komarov's) has recently inspired GM Tal Baron.

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08-04-2016 , 04:11 PM

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JSLigon

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We'll soon have to learn to pronounce the name 'Praggnanandhaa'.

Pregnant Anand, ha! The specter of a silly nickname should prevent the kid from putting on too much weight as he gets older.

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08-10-2016 , 01:55 AM

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How do lichess ratings compare to the real world? Just beat a 2121 rated player at blitz, think thats my best ever.

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08-10-2016 , 08:56 AM

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The Yugoslavian

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They are higher for sure but I'm not sure how much. So the answer is almost surely "it depends."

My best guess would be 100-200 points higher.

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08-10-2016 , 12:12 PM

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Rei Ayanami

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>300 for sure.

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08-10-2016 , 12:13 PM

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Judit Bowlgar

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internet blitz is more a test of athleticism than actual chess skill, imo

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08-10-2016 , 02:42 PM

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08-14-2016 , 12:41 PM

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rockfsh

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Political satire on Chess.com.

https://www.chess.com/article/view/c...st_new_comment

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08-18-2016 , 02:36 AM

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How do lichess ratings compare to the real world? Just beat a 2121 rated player at blitz, think thats my best ever.

I am rated over 2100 on lichess

I am pretty sure I have never broke 1900 on chess.com

No idea what my real world rating is/would be

(those are blitz ratings btw)

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08-18-2016 , 06:52 AM

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ChrisV

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internet blitz is more a test of athleticism than actual chess skill, imo

Spoken like someone who loses at blitz

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08-18-2016 , 12:46 PM

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SicilianTaimanov

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Lichess and chesscube have higher rating than chess.com

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08-19-2016 , 06:38 AM

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All-inMcLovin

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I am rated over 2100 on lichess

I am pretty sure I have never broke 1900 on chess.com

No idea what my real world rating is/would be

(those are blitz ratings btw)

I have a theory that "The Bay Area Beast" is actually a secret Grandmaster without the title.

I mean, have you ever seen anyone shuffle pieces on the back rank like that before?

The skill, the fluidity, the comprehension!

Dude is a natural.

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08-24-2016 , 09:07 AM

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YouKnowWho

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http://chess-results.com/tnr208122.a...&wi=984&snr=38

For BJJ

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08-24-2016 , 09:10 AM

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YouKnowWho

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Also, how am I in the list of players for the prodigy watch?!

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08-24-2016 , 09:35 AM

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http://chess-results.com/tnr208122.a...&wi=984&snr=38

For BJJ

That's amazing

Is this Vincent's 2nd or 3rd IM norm?

Also impressive is 15-year-old Emre Emin Dedebas' result in the same tourney: he earned an IM norm too and added 110 to his Elo, making it 2358.

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