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01-19-2012 , 07:56 PM
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does 1.. c5 2. Nce6 h6 work? knight seems to not get out after taking the exchange.
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01-19-2012 , 09:17 PM
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Yes, I think so. The h6/knight not getting out after taking exchange thing worked later ITG as well.
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01-20-2012 , 08:28 AM
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Why not h6 first?
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01-24-2012 , 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by KyleJRM82
More fun with endgames. Super-easy for many of the players here, but I found it fascinating.

White to play and draw:


can't white draw with 1. a8=Q Bxa8 2. Nxd3 Kg1 3. Ke1 h2 4. Nf2 Bf3 5. Nh3+? There has to be a refutation that could really turn this into a study because the zugzwang motives in this line look really interesting.

Guess i found it, 5. ...Kg2 6. Nf2 Bg4/h5! or 6. Nf4+ Kg3
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01-31-2012 , 11:27 PM
Would someone mind helping me out with this position? I'm currently playing through Dreev's games (I pretty much copied his opening repertoire) and this one is from Dreev-Zherebukh in 2009. In the following position, white played 29. h4. Could someone explain to me the idea behind the move? To my patzer eye it looks like that move weakens the h-pawn. I thought maybe he's trying to prevent a g6-g5 advance by black, but I don't see why black would want to try and play that. Houdini likes the move (2nd best) but for the life of me I can't figure out what Dreev is planning. Any help at all would be appreciated.

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01-31-2012 , 11:53 PM
Do not think about this position too much. He is just pushing pawns because he has no other plan.
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01-31-2012 , 11:53 PM
Prevents black's knight from going f6-h7-g5? It takes control of a square without weakening any?
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02-01-2012 , 12:03 AM
I think it consists of a couple of things:

1. It is very important to grab as much space as possible in the ending, if you can. Therefore, ideally, white would love to set up his pawns on g4 and h4 right now, severely limiting black's movement on the kingside.

2. If he starts with g4, black can just respond with g5 and the expansion on the kingside is stopped, because after f4 black can just hold his ground with something like Nh7 or even take on f4 and get rid of his doubled pawns.

3. Therefore, he starts with h4, preventing g5. Nh5 is not scary, so g4 is incoming next move, slowly building the pressure and limiting black's options.
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02-01-2012 , 10:35 AM
YKW, thank you for the reply, that completely makes sense. I didn't think that if he led with g4, black would shut it down with g5. Very, very helpful.
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02-03-2012 , 09:26 AM
you need to go to marketing school IMO.
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02-03-2012 , 05:47 PM
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you need to go to marketing school IMO.
Why is that?
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02-03-2012 , 05:58 PM
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Why is that?
because he is replying to a spammer not to you.
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02-06-2012 , 10:51 AM
This isn't an instructive position, but a beautiful game. This article is from chess.com and showcases the game Timman-Ernst from Wijk aan Zee's B group this year. This is the type of game I could only dream to play.

http://www.chess.com/article/view/just-played
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02-23-2012 , 02:22 PM
@#$%@#% There's got to be a way to win this for white, right?

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02-23-2012 , 02:37 PM
That looks like a dead draw to me, I don't see how white can make progress. Since black's king can't be dislodged from c8, the white king can't ever participate in the game. All black has to do is not lose the g5 pawn and white can't do anything.
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02-23-2012 , 05:38 PM
Yeah, I guess it really is. There's just no way around it.

Going back to earlier in the game, here was a great, instructive endgame position.

White has one move that is clearly superior to all others:

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02-24-2012 , 03:32 AM
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Bb8 followed by d7.
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02-28-2012 , 12:48 AM
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02-28-2012 , 02:10 PM
In KyleJRM82's game at the beginning of this thread, I wonder if a GM would have spotted black's amazing move in that line...
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03-01-2012 , 05:38 PM


Saw this in an ICC video and found it particularly filthy. White to play and win.
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03-01-2012 , 05:56 PM
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1.b6 ab6 2.Ra5
Does anybody want to take a guess at the position I presented or should I just give away the answer?
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03-01-2012 , 06:13 PM
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I'd probably just start with Nxc2 and start grabbing hanging pawns. I don't see anything more forcing. Black just seems a million times better.

*goes to check it with computer and to see what he's missing*


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03-01-2012 , 07:56 PM
Kyle the solution to that position you posted is beyond awesome. Filthy describes it perfectly. I love puzzles that are not overly complex but that are still absolutely gorgeous.
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03-01-2012 , 08:29 PM
Solution is really nice, but the question is.. is that position really winning for white? seems fortress-y
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03-02-2012 , 12:31 AM
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Solution is really nice, but the question is.. is that position really winning for white? seems fortress-y
Yeah I don't see a win:

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1. b6 axb6 2. Ra5 bxa5 3. a7 Ke7 4. a8=Q Re2 5. Qg8 g5 6. Qxh7+ Ke6 7. Qf5+ Kf7 8. Qxa5 Re5

Other 5th moves don't seem to help either.
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