Hello, I was just wondering if there were any chess.com members. I play chess online, I actually began playing about a year ago and maybe 6 months ago seriously. I have played poker for about 6 or 7 years. I thought if any chess.com members were on here they might enjoy this post on the forum talking about poker. Since, there not many poker players on there I was thinking I could use some help explaining poker to some novices.

http://www.chess.com/forum/view/gene...st_new_comment

In case you are interested. I think there were some unfair accusations made about poker and how it takes no skill, so I figured I would come to the first forum on poker I frequented when I started and find some chess/poker players to help me build a bridge of diplomacy. either way, thank you for your time.

I started reading that thread (before this one) and realized there was no hope. If someone doesn't get it already, I don't think there is anything we could type online that would convince them otherwise. What's required is a hard slap to the face, and that's difficult to do online.

I had a similar problem when I ran a chess club at school. My solution was to devise a game called Chess Football to get the non-chess players to play chess. You probably need to do something similar and invent Chess Poker.

Yeah, you are probably right, I cant slap anyone and chess poker sounds fun, but there are people so snobbish they wont play blitz chess or random chess, lol so I doubt they will consider playing anything with the words poker in it. Well thank you for the advice.

Just curious, did you really make chess football? and how did it work?

Not that it makes it clearer, but to avoid some confusion cwocwoc is British, so football in his post likely refers to soccer for those with me in the US.

Hah that is a totally hopeless thread. OP your ability to withstand trolling/post in a civilized manner does not seem to be top notch either, to be honest.

Thanks for pointing that out. Soccer chess then.

Hm now as I think of it - didn't our poker vs chess skill thread go completely down the tubes as well? Objective comparison iz hard

lol really? I thought I was pretty civilized until it became clear that who was just going to bash poker. At that point its like a fight. If someone gets hit on the street the reasoning part ofdialogue is over and we have moved into more seriouos waters. I probably crossed the line calling that man's wife a blow up doll. I really did think he was lying though, until I talked to a mutual friend.

actually there is a group called the Royal Spam Society which trolls on the chess.com forums. I have no idea why they dont all get banned. So once they came it was over. And I definitely dont feel bad about anything I said to them. They troll hard everyday. So I told them the truth. They are internet cowards. I think one of them said they their fist would meet my face if we met. Two things I learned about the internet. Everyone woman is a supermodel and every man is prize fighter.

Two goal posts at each end two goalkeepers and a lot of outfield pieces and a ball obviously. It was good enough for children but not really interesting enough for adults. I have been thinking about chess poker and it is a difficult concept but a potentially great game would emerge if the important elements of the two games could be married together.

Although in reality most men are supermodels and most women are prize fighters.

I'm not understanding this game at all.

We have our own chess.com team

Go join.

Speaking of which we have two new applicants but no idea if they are 2p2ers..

GC, you are the first person I've come across anywhere who is trying to do what I also want to do: build a bridge between chess and poker players. You mentioned a bridge of "diplomacy", but I'm even more ambitious. I want chess and poker players to come together in COMPETITION.

Another poster here mentioned that you would probably have to invent "chess poker". Yes! And believe it or not, that is exactly what I have done. I spent 6 to 7 years inventing it and figuring out the rules of play. Now it's complete and I am documenting it for filing a patent. In the meantime, I am creating a prototype web application using HTML5 and Javascript that I will use as a demo to attract investors.

My game (not called "chess poker" but a name I thought up) will bring chess and poker players together to each utilize their particular skills, because this new game involves both betting and chess play. It is played between 2 players only. I am also formulating a format for the web page to document each step of any match, so that it can be replayed and studied just like chess. Eventually -- say 2 years from now -- the game will be played at brick and mortar locations, and each table will have a dealer and a game notator. Each hand might take 30 minutes max to complete (but would usually be 10 to 15 minutes, could even be much less), and a match should take a maximum of 20-some hands. With a 15 minute average per hand, this would be 5 to 6 hours per match if it went to maximum number of hands. Which is about the average length of a chess game, so tournaments would be run over weekends like chess tournaments. They would not be Swiss-style as in chess, but elimination: you lose and you're out.

I should also mention: the chess portion will involve one addition to the chess rules that will make chess engines useless at this game for years into the future. That means the chess part cannot be won by cheating using an engine, and this means the entire game can be played online for real money.

Would you be interested in being an investor or a working partner? If there's a way here that you can PM me, do so and we can get a real discussion going. This goes for anyone else who is interested in either investing or becoming a working partner. We will soon need REAL web developers to go beyond a mere demo.

It's going to happen: chess and poker players will be brought together and compete for prizes and fame! May the best skill set win!