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Not that I think Magnus will lose this, but they should implement a rematch for a champ who loses rather than have them just join the rest of the candidates tournament bunch.

Giving the ex-champ a shot at regaining his title makes sense both from a ratings pov and from a fairness pov.

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11-24-2018 , 08:39 PM

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Melkerson

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Does anyone know how they decided who was which color in each round.

It seems like white first and last is a slight advantage and generally such advantages go to the champ.

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11-24-2018 , 08:52 PM

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MinusEV

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There's a random draw for who gets white in the first round. Then they alternate until game 6 is done, when they reverse it, which is why whoever gets black in the opening game gets two games as white in the middle.

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11-25-2018 , 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by MinusEV

Do you mean in two years or earlier? If you meant in two years then everybody else will have to wait at least 4 years to have a shot at the crown.
An automatic rematch also gives the reigning champ two chances to "defend" his title. The challenger will have to win both.

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11-25-2018 , 03:34 PM

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I was thinking a rematch in the year between so it doesn't disrupt anything else.

But obv there's an issue if the former champ then wins his/her title back - then the now losing champ should get a rematch too... so yea, I'm not saying I've got it all figured out

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11-25-2018 , 03:48 PM

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Didn't they used to have that rule in the 60s and got rid of it because bottinivik was playing for the WC for 10 years or something crazy.

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11-25-2018 , 08:29 PM

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I am absolutely expecting a draw tomorrow despite how excited I'm sure we all are, tension will be as high as it's ever been in a WCC. Any potential blunder is a life changer for both of them, something you wouldn't be able to ever take back even if the loser regains and/or eventually becomes world champ.

Glory/prestige/history is all on the line this week, either Magnus fends off his biggest challenge to date or Fabiano begins a new era taking out arguably the greatest player of all time.

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11-26-2018 , 03:38 AM

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or Fabiano begins a new era taking out arguably the greatest player of all time.

I'm sure Caruana would love an opportunity to play a match against Kasparov, but he's retired, sadly.

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11-26-2018 , 11:28 AM

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My sympathies were around 51/49 in favour of Caruana, but I swear to ****, if he repeats now after 14 moves he should **** right off and never set foot in a chess playing hall again.

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11-26-2018 , 12:39 PM

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man, was just going to comment on Fabi's decent edge out of the opening, but he just wrecked it all with 21. Rh2. Still rooting for this donk, gogooggoo

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11-26-2018 , 12:52 PM

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Now drifting into time trouble, jeez

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11-26-2018 , 01:22 PM

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Caruana looks totally ****ed

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11-26-2018 , 01:36 PM

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Caruana looks totally ****ed

Lucky for him Magnus just let him off the hook on move 25, much better line would've been b5 instead of a5 and force the knight bishop exchange on c5.

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11-26-2018 , 02:07 PM

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Magnus just missed a couple chances there to really push an advantage, guess he is content to head to tiebreaks like I thought a few games back. Draw offer one move past the minimum lol now the real fun begins...

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11-26-2018 , 02:07 PM

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Wtf draw? Did Caruana offer and Carlsen accept?

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11-26-2018 , 02:09 PM

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Wtf draw? Did Caruana offer and Carlsen accept?

Opposite result, he offered and Caruana snap accepted as you'd expect given the mess he made of his position.

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11-26-2018 , 02:10 PM

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Booooooooooooo.

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11-26-2018 , 02:11 PM

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So what's the line now? -500?

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11-26-2018 , 02:12 PM

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Wow. both players with massive nerves. Hopefully Chirilla can voodoo Fabi into coming in for the tiebreaks calm and collected.

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11-26-2018 , 02:13 PM

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Isn't it very strange that apparently there is no youtube stream, where the commentators have access to the live stream?

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11-26-2018 , 02:13 PM

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magnus COWARDsen

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11-26-2018 , 02:16 PM

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Magnus should win this now although I wonder if not fighting the end game here will come back to haunt him. I referenced move 25 as an error because after a few obvious exchanges black actually gets to trade a pawn for a bishop advantage and Fabiano king side becomes very weak. Oh well, these guys play at a level us peons can't really fathom and Carlsen did say his position probably looked better than it actually was so I'd trust his assessment.

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11-26-2018 , 02:19 PM

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https://twitter.com/EugenePerel/stat...19730581012485

Kramnik on the draw by Magnus "as a human as a World Champ this is simply not allowed"! "I would not sleep for one month!"

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11-26-2018 , 02:20 PM

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Isn't it very strange that apparently there is no youtube stream, where the commentators have access to the live stream?

No - the live stream is the only thing Agon can control so it's behind their $20 official commentary. Other broadcasts could certainly watch it while commentating if they want but it's the one thing they can't legally rebroadcast.

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