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Old Yesterday, 07:00 PM   #76
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Re: 2018 World Chess Championship: Magnus Carlsen vs Fabiano Caruana

Chess at the highest level has been very drawish for a very long time. Even before computers. The sky isn't falling. If anything, today's draws are a lot more exciting on a whole than draws of old (which very often were so-called "Grandmaster Draws", many times even pre-arranged short draws by agreement). Today at the top level you barely see a draw that doesn't at least get played until the position is extremely dry, and I believe Carlsen's influence plays no small part in that development. He quite literally made a career out of winning drawn positions.

Lastly, to give some perspecitve, the first KvK in 1984 went:

| Karpov +5 | =40= | +3 Kasparov |

before being abandoned by FIDE.

That's 83% draws.
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Old Today, 05:06 AM   #77
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Re: 2018 World Chess Championship: Magnus Carlsen vs Fabiano Caruana

12 games doesn't seem long enough for a WC match. I get that there is not the desire for many reasons to have an unlimited match.
I feel like it should be 24 games though or at least 16 or something.

Yesterday's game was pretty exciting given the opening. Apparently there was a mate in 30 somewhere at the end!

Also someone commented earlier that fabio hasn't really outplayed Magnus from a equal position yet. Yesterday's match he seemed to do that for the first time though.
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Re: 2018 World Chess Championship: Magnus Carlsen vs Fabiano Caruana

To add to my post above, if we should ever see a game like THIS ONE in a World Championship ever again, then the "Chess is too drawish" people have a bit more solid ground to stand on, I think.

I guess one could name Carlsen - Karjakin game 12, but at least we can understand why the players did it. KvK 1984 had quite a few of those <20 moves draws, I merely picked the shortest one at 13 moves.
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