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04-14-2012 , 09:15 PM
Anyone have this problem? I get to my home screen on chess.com and it tells me I have 6 minutes to make a move in a certain game. I click on the game and go to the details tab where it tells me I have 1 hour 34 minutes. How much time did I have left??
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04-15-2012 , 02:02 PM
I think that when you're a premium member it somehow gives you some extra time. I've had it before but not since I lost premium.
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04-15-2012 , 02:13 PM
As premium member you get set on auto vacation, and since vacation is always at least one day it adds the time difference to your clock if you come back from vacation earlier.
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04-18-2012 , 05:34 AM
got lucky to win against Cadaz because he messed up his move order at the end and missed a mate. Was feeling pretty unhappy with my play during most of the game.

http://www.chessvideos.tv/chess-game...r.php?id=63358

At least the game would probably have made Bent Larsen ("if in doubt, push a rook pawn") happy.
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06-28-2012 , 01:35 AM
Well, I held out for the last game of round 2 as well. And now that I lost, four of you have to finish battling it out. At least you should be done sooner without me there. Good luck!

I liked my last game, even though it didn't go well for me. http://www.chess.com/echess/game.html?id=50598147



I guess 52. Bd4 was the last mistake here, but I've been wrong in my analysis of this game many times already.
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06-28-2012 , 01:47 AM
I hope it's not too mean to cheer myself up with this game I played with Sholar (and since he killed me in our other game, I think he can handle this). I had the black side of an interesting Benoni: http://www.chess.com/echess/game.html?id=50598159 (or here, which I needed for the diagram: http://www.chessvideos.tv/chess-game...r.php?id=66803 )

Here's the position after white's 22nd move:


Spoiler:
I played 22...Bg4. I'd like to think it's actually correct and winning. I'm not sure what I'd suggest to white instead of 22. O-O though. The alternative seems to be to move the play to the queenside, but he has a bishop and rook that will have trouble helping there.

[White "NSholar"]
[Black "hamstergang"]
[Result "0-1"]

1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 e6 3.c4 c5 4.d5 exd5 5.cxd5 d6 6.Nc3 g6 7.Bf4 a6 8.a4 Qe7 9.h3 Bg7 10.e3 O-O 11.Nd2 Nh5 12.Bh2 f5 13.Be2 f4 14.e4 Qg5 15.Bxh5 gxh5 16.Qf3 Nd7 17.Nc4 Ne5 18.Nxe5 Bxe5 19.a5 b5 20.axb6 Rb8 21.Na4 Bd7 22.O-O Bg4 23.hxg4 hxg4 24.Qd3 g3 25.Ra3 gxh2+ 26.Kh1 f3 27.gxf3 Rb7 0-1
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06-28-2012 , 01:52 AM
Tough but awesome position ganstaman. It looks like some complex study straight out of an endgame manual.

Last edited by Do it Right; 06-28-2012 at 01:53 AM. Reason: in response to post 130
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06-28-2012 , 03:07 AM
Hi gansta, I just wrote you a message on chess.com about the game.

I haven't analyzed it yet, but during the game I felt that the diagrammed position above is still totally lost. I had spotted the g5 idea the move before (not many candidate moves there...) but gave the check first. Bd4 must be wrong, but after 52. Bd4 g5 53. Ke3 I don't think I have anything. 53.. f4+ 54. gxf4 and then after gxf4+ Ke4 or gxh4 a bishop move.

Even after 52. Bd4 g5 53. hxg5 f4 54. Ke4 is allright because if Rxd4 Kxd4 the king is in the square and otherwise the bishop just moves away and the three q-side pawns should win.

Let's see what the Oracle will say (Houdini, that is...).
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06-28-2012 , 03:18 AM
At a quick glance it seems doubtful whether either one of those lines is alright for White. In the first line the h-pawn will win a bishop really fast and in the second it also looks like the B is lost very quickly (and Black should win). Will be interesting to see what the engine says though.

And gl for the fellow finalists, it's showdown time
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06-28-2012 , 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Ajezz
I had spotted the g5 idea the move before
Same here, which is why I thought it was weird when you played ...g6 since ...g5 was your threat once the queens came off. And so often I wasted time analyzing a position only to find the same theme of ...RxB deflection lost for me, which made it more upsetting to miss it in the game. I think I initially planned 46. Bd6, and after 46. g5, I kept discovering new things that made me change my evaluation of it. I'm on my phone now so it's hard see the specifics (chess.com looks horrible on my phone, totally unusable).

Edit: oh, you're saying white is winning in the diagrammed position, even after Bd4? Well that definitely makes the situation feel worse.
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06-29-2012 , 05:43 AM
Okay, I just asked Houdini...

The diagrammed position is a draw (0.27). However when we were playing, my feeling was that it is lost for me. Three connected pawns look very menacing...

As it turns out, 52. Bd4 is a mistake (-1.3 at depth 19). Both of my lines given above win as well for Black, as wlrs has already pointed out. In fact, after 52. Bd4 every line I looked at is won for Black, though the computer always needs some time to see it (depth 20 and beyond).

But I don't know if it's right to evaluate such an unbalanced position with Houdini. It's a different story in a practical game.
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06-29-2012 , 06:33 AM
yeah i think it's knee-jerk thinking (omg 3 passers for an exchange and a pawn, has to win). I thought the same too at first sight when I looked at your game but then it becomes visible that Black manages to wedge his king between the pawns and draw (after which you can even start to look for winning chances but there aren't enough of those)
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10-12-2012 , 10:50 AM
*bump*

I just resigned the last running game of the 1st 2+2 correspondence championship, making Sholar the winner. Congratulations to him!

I saw that the tournament started on November 27th 2011. I think we should have another one, how about starting it roughly one year after the last one? I could TD it if that's fine with everyone.
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10-12-2012 , 12:48 PM
Im intrested, I promise to not time out on all my games this time
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10-12-2012 , 07:04 PM
Congratulations Sholar! Hail to the Champion! :-) Also congratulations to wlrs and Noir for Silver and Bronze. I am happy to have reached the final round, but there you guys were definitively too strong for me. :-)

I was following the final game during the last weeks. Very interesting, especially since it was effectively a game for first place.

All in all, it was a fun tournament and I would take part in a new one.
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10-12-2012 , 08:13 PM
Congrats Sholar!

It was fun, I would be interested in doing it again too. I think we have a good spread of talent to make this interesting.
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10-13-2012 , 08:24 AM
Congrats

I'm up for another one. I guess the easiest is just to invite everybody in the group and see who turns up.

If I remember correctly by winning this Sholar wins entry into the yearly "best of the best" tournament?
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10-15-2012 , 07:20 AM
Ok if i get green light from some forum authority i'll set up the tourney. In the prolongated absence of our forum tournament director BJJ i'll take an OK from roundtower as 2+2 mod or alternatively from our chess.com admins Cadaz or wlrs. I propose same parameters as last time (5-men groups, 2 advance, both games at the same time, 3 days time control, yes vacation). If we get significantly more players than last time, i'd change the format to 6-men groups to speed things up a little and not get more than three rounds.

Starting date would be exactly one year after last one, 27. November 2012.
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10-15-2012 , 04:34 PM
you have carte blanche from me to organise the tourney as you see fit.
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10-15-2012 , 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Noir_Desir
Ok if i get green light
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Originally Posted by RoundTower
you have carte blanche
Wrong color!!

Last edited by ganstaman; 10-15-2012 at 06:26 PM. Reason: well, maybe it's more "no color" but still not green
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10-15-2012 , 06:45 PM
You just blue my mind
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10-15-2012 , 08:14 PM
Hue did?
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