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02-28-2011 , 05:36 PM
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I'm hitting on the 5 point. The 22 anchor is of little value here, if it was even one more point advanced it would be different.
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02-28-2011 , 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by LowRayTeeng
my choices are:

1. bar/23, 23/20, aggressive
He has like 16 combos to point on you there.
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03-01-2011 , 04:55 AM
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Hi Bill,

what a funny position.

What did we learn so far:

In a position with extra men back the game will last longer than usual.
So structure becomes extra important.
Black doesnt have any structure now, so bar/22 24/22 might be good.

On the other hand with all these blots flying around, shouldn't we make use of it.
By playing bar/23 8x5 for instance?
No, since white has so many returns.

And what about unstacking with bar/22 13/11 of 6/4?

No, i think the unstacking moves should wait until we have some structure.

Bar/22 24/22 it is.
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03-01-2011 , 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by loveinvain
I'm hitting on the 5 point. The 22 anchor is of little value here, if it was even one more point advanced it would be different.
Well fiddled! With 43, hitting could be a blunder.
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03-01-2011 , 08:41 AM
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OTB I make the anchor without hesitation.

And since that seems so obvious, the right answer must be to hit on the 5 point. You're not really in a hurry to make an anchor, so there's a cost to waiting until a later roll to do that. Losing the spare on the 8 seems to be a high cost when you're almost certainly going to be hit back... If I am going to argue that hitting loose is right, it's because of two reasons:

1) Tempo. In this spot, with white having all sorts of builders all over the place, I don't want what to have both dice to move.

2) Good upside and no downside. If I'm lucky enough to dodge the large number rolls that hit me back, I've got a shot at making the 5 point. If I get hit, I just shrug a little because I'm not really worried about being sent back.

But in reality, I'm only thinking about this because of the quiz factor.
Funny, OTB I hit loose without hesitation and only think about it due to the quiz factor.
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03-01-2011 , 08:45 AM
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Well fiddled! With 43, hitting could be a blunder.
Yes, your earlier post sums up my thoughts pretty well. While hitting seems futile as there are a zillion return shots, putting a checker on the 23 point (and putting a checker on the bar if we get hit) helps fight for an advanced anchor as well as our own 5 point so getting hit may end up working in our favor.

This is the key IMO, were not just fighting for our 5 point but our oppopnents 5 point as well.
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03-01-2011 , 12:05 PM
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Yes, your earlier post sums up my thoughts pretty well. While hitting seems futile as there are a zillion return shots, putting a checker on the 23 point (and putting a checker on the bar if we get hit) helps fight for an advanced anchor as well as our own 5 point so getting hit may end up working in our favor.

This is the key IMO, were not just fighting for our 5 point but our oppopnents 5 point as well.
And the 4 is an advanced anchor, but the 3 not. It isn't fish nor meat and to settle with it against a 5 point is no bargain. The hit takes away half a roll.
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03-01-2011 , 03:26 PM
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Anchors are for wimps
You just can't give white the freedom to achieve something good on the next roll. White has no board so the risks aren't so great in hitting.
Making the anchor is playing to lose and a typical beginners play and if it's correct I'm giving up backgammon for good.
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