Two Plus Two Publishing LLC
Two Plus Two Publishing LLC
 

Go Back   Two Plus Two Poker Forums > >

Notices

Backgammon Forum hosted by Bill Robertie. Discussion of anything related to backgammon: strategy, problems, books, clubs, and tournaments.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-23-2018, 06:31 PM   #1
FastandLouche
stranger
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Scotland
Posts: 6
Pretty but Pretty Bad

White - Pips 141 (-5), Match -1 -1

Black - Pips 146 (+5), Match -1 -1
Black to Play 4-2
Created with Diagram Builder

Hi,

Any thoughts on this position? There's two moves that seem pretty obvious, to me at least, but the one I chose is actually quite a big error.
FastandLouche is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-27-2018, 01:24 PM   #2
Estarabim
newbie
 
Join Date: Dec 2017
Posts: 19
Re: Pretty but Pretty Bad

I assume two plays you mentioned are 24/20 - 13 -11 or hitting 11/5*.

By first move, I think we are slightly favourite in the game. We are blocking white's checker by three anchors and even she runs away next roll, we will pose a threat with our checker at 20 to send her back. We also make a point at 11 and unstack midpoint.

By second move, White can hit us with 15 numbers..That's a lot! If she hits, she will have an easy journey to her home, and the game will be tough for us with her checkers in the zone and a valuable 4 point anchor..

So I will go with the first play 24/20 - 13/11
Estarabim is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-28-2018, 03:38 AM   #3
RolldUpTrips
adept
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Las Vegas
Posts: 830
Re: Pretty but Pretty Bad

I don't want to move up. We're not ahead in the race and if he hits loose and we miss it's a massive improvement for him. I'm torn between hitting and making the 9 point. While making the 9 looks nice, I think tactically we just need to hit. You can't let him just get out and get away with putting that guy on that juicy point.
RolldUpTrips is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-28-2018, 09:44 AM   #4
Robertie
old hand
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 1,702
Re: Pretty but Pretty Bad

From Black's point of view this is a 'one checker back' position. When you've escaped a checker in the opening, your desire to escape the last back checker (or to move up in the board to escape more easily later) goes up. At the same time, your desire to hit loose and potentially get a second checker sent back goes way down. If Black had two men back I think 11/5* would be pretty clear, but here I'd play 20/20 13/11.
Robertie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2018, 05:07 PM   #5
antialias
journeyman
 
Join Date: May 2018
Posts: 223
Re: Pretty but Pretty Bad

Sorry for being a total noob at this game, but what about playing 13-9, 11-9?
We open up 13 for our stone in the back and white on 5 is unlikely to escape with the next roll.
antialias is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2018, 07:01 PM   #6
_Z_
grinder
 
_Z_'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 564
Re: Pretty but Pretty Bad

It's worth a thought, but you'd rather have the 11 than the 9 for a couple reasons. It's better block/containment against the back White checker and the 9 point doesn't go well with the 3 point being 6 away from each other.

You'd probably also rather be on the 20 than the 24, though that's less clear to me.
_Z_ is offline   Reply With Quote

Reply
      

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:39 PM.


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 2008-2017, Two Plus Two Interactive
 
 
Poker Players - Streaming Live Online